This trem is.... uh, colorful!! Ti trems..

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BloodRose

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First, would any of you use a trem that is rainbow colored like this??

http://www.hantug.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=89_91&product_id=132

Next, do any of you use, or have you played a guitar with a Ti trem?? I have Ti insert blocks in a couple of mine. And I have a Ti block Im going to try on one. I cant see myself paying more than I have paid for most of my guitars just for a trem. But Im curious if it makes much difference or if there is any improvement??
 
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$780!?!

I can confidently say I'll never have a $780 tremolo. ;)

That being said, i bet XSSIVE could make an amazing looking guitar with a colored trem like that (all single or dual color, not rainbow)
 
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Nah, price aside I can't say the looks work for me. I'm intrigued ref the tone fron an all Ti unit but not enough to wip my wang out and lay it on the counter!
 
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They have them in standard colors too. If a Ti trem was magical, I might would consider one for my #1.. But sure as heck wouldnt be the rainbow brite one.. I know Phil Collen of Def Lep uses a Ti trem..
 
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If I was buying a rainbow trem, I'd go all out, get the "burnt chrome" Special and upgrade the parts:

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Haven't tried a completely Ti trem, though. If I didn't like my guitar's tone at that point, I'd just use the money I'd spend on the Ti trem and get a different guitar :)
 
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Do Ti saddles makes much difference on a Floyd?
 
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d1dsj said:
Do Ti saddles makes much difference on a Floyd?
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All I have is the little lock blocks that hold the strings in. Sonically I dont imagine they change much of anything one of my stock blocks was broken on my US Charvel, I was ordering upgrade parts so I bought the Ti blocks. Maybe to Eric J or someone, they may tell a diff in pitch, I could not.
 
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BloodRose said:
Next, do any of you use, or have you played a guitar with a Ti trem?? I have Ti insert blocks in a couple of mine. And I have a Ti block Im going to try on one. I cant see myself paying more than I have paid for most of my guitars just for a trem. But Im curious if it makes much difference or if there is any improvement??
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I have a Charvel Pro Mod that I have a full Ti rig on. Others have Ti saddles and a couple have Ti nuts, several have Ti blocks, and almost all have Ti studs. I've reviewed different components on my site and my FB (should be able to find them quickest with something like "Darth Phineas titanium" via Google).

I believe that hatung (?) brand is out of Turkey. While I've seen them, I'm not sure I'd want to buy them for a few reasons.

As far as Ti in general, I took some of my guitars to a locally based artist and now he only uses Ti saddles and Ti studs of his personal guitars. He's done a few with full Ti rigs and also got a Ti TOM bridge and tailpiece for a non-term guitar. I consider Ti to be more of a transparent metal that doesn't necessarily brighten the tone as much as get out of the way of the natural tone more than other term materials. Then there are things with a lesser impact, such as the Ti saddle inserts that are more about durability than anything.

The pricing can be prohibitive, which is also why I took it a part at a time to dip my toe in the water with the more cost effective parts before committing to the more expensive ones...which actually cost a little more in the long run, but was a safer bet IMHO.

Let me know if that helps or if you have more questions.


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with regard to colors, I picked up a few full brand new Schaller LockMeister rigs from a shop. one was antique copper, which seemed to work well on the all black ESP M-II. putting Ti saddles on there broke it up a bit, but the all copper rig looked cool. and I find the LockMeister to be at least as good as the current German FR...closer in quality to the older 80s German FR, in my experience.


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That Lo Pro Edge replacement looks sleek.
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I believe forum bro Lone Phantom has Hantug stuff in some of his guitars, maybe he'll chip in.
 
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My experiences with trem upgrades were like : when a guitar sang already the new trem did not make a noticeable difference. When a guitar sucked, the new trem did not improve anything.
 
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Pink term, Hello Kitty Strat. I'm feel in' it!
 
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darthphineas said:
I have a Charvel Pro Mod that I have a full Ti rig on. Others have Ti saddles and a couple have Ti nuts, several have Ti blocks, and almost all have Ti studs. I've reviewed different components on my site and my FB (should be able to find them quickest with something like "Darth Phineas titanium" via Google).

I believe that hatung (?) brand is out of Turkey. While I've seen them, I'm not sure I'd want to buy them for a few reasons.

As far as Ti in general, I took some of my guitars to a locally based artist and now he only uses Ti saddles and Ti studs of his personal guitars. He's done a few with full Ti rigs and also got a Ti TOM bridge and tailpiece for a non-term guitar. I consider Ti to be more of a transparent metal that doesn't necessarily brighten the tone as much as get out of the way of the natural tone more than other term materials. Then there are things with a lesser impact, such as the Ti saddle inserts that are more about durability than anything.

The pricing can be prohibitive, which is also why I took it a part at a time to dip my toe in the water with the more cost effective parts before committing to the more expensive ones...which actually cost a little more in the long run, but was a safer bet IMHO.

Let me know if that helps or if you have more questions.


EDIT:

with regard to colors, I picked up a few full brand new Schaller LockMeister rigs from a shop. one was antique copper, which seemed to work well on the all black ESP M-II. putting Ti saddles on there broke it up a bit, but the all copper rig looked cool. and I find the LockMeister to be at least as good as the current German FR...closer in quality to the older 80s German FR, in my experience.


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Thanks for the input! If I get some spare time, Ill try to find your reviews. I assume, based on what Im reading, that you find it beneficial..?? They def look amazing!! I used to race motocross and did alot of bike modding for performance and also to make the bike look trick. So, I really like the high performance look of them. But cost wise, it isnt something I could consider doing at this point unless there was notable performance gains too. The copper looks awesome!
 
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BloodRose said:
Thanks for the input! If I get some spare time, Ill try to find your reviews. I assume, based on what Im reading, that you find it beneficial..?? They def look amazing!! I used to race motocross and did alot of bike modding for performance and also to make the bike look trick. So, I really like the high performance look of them. But cost wise, it isnt something I could consider doing at this point unless there was notable performance gains too. The copper looks awesome!
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As with many things, "beneficial" can be relative to the person. :) I dig them, but I don't see the need to outfit every guitar I have with them. I've spoken with my dude at TiSonix (they make the Ti FR rigs for FR) many times, picking his brain about what he does and how he does it. I'm perfectly comfortable with their stuff. Plus, they make it to very exact tolerances and to the original FR specs (which I address in my reviews). If you start with the Ti mounting stud inserts, you'll see there is no where near the loose fit (or slop) found in other mountain stud inserts - especially the licensed ones. That tighter fit helps with increases tuning stability and better transference of energy than many of the other ones out there...plus, they are rated to last longer.

If you're into custom stuff, TiSonix offers a laser etching service. Some people are putting their names or band logos or whatever on to some of their Ti parts.
 
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Ashurbanipal said:
I believe forum bro Lone Phantom has Hantug stuff in some of his guitars, maybe he'll chip in.
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Hey, yeah, I have one of the early non-anodized Ti Floyd Rose bridges, and yes it's very nice. from my experience with Ti components it really gives you a more articulate, clear tone, plus the light weight advantages. I need to get around to reviewing the Ti Floyd Rose, as I've had it for quite some time, but personal stuff had slowed down my blogging over the last year. I'm a big fan of Ti as a metal for guitar parts though. Pricey, yes, but I guess if you've got the coin and you're after advantages the metal gives you then it's worth it.
 
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^^ Mm, I remember also that the vintage trem you have on your single hum is made by these guys.
 
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