Folks. I love to try out pickups, but do not have enough vision to do soldering. I am thinking the Liberator system may work for me, with the assistance of my fiancé, to make sure I am matching up the wire/color scheme when putting in new pickups. SOme folks have warned me that a solderless system yields less good tone. I wanted to hear opinions from people who have actually used this system. I am thinking about trying them out in my USA Dean Soltero, which currently has a C5 with a roughcast A5 and 59 A4 in the neck. The guitar is noisey as hell and the pots seem to have really poor tapper and I need to replace them either way.
Thoughts on Seymour Duncan Liberator? Considering installing them!!!
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I have one in my HSS Strat and really enjoyed to easily swap pickups, first the STK-S6, then the YJM Fury, the STK-S6 again, now I plan to install an SSL-1 just to try. I mean at some point I may find my never changing setup but for now it works for me.
I have one in my HSS Strat and really enjoyed to easily swap pickups, first the STK-S6, then the YJM Fury, the STK-S6 again, now I plan to install an SSL-1 just to try. I mean at some point I may find my never changing setup but for now it works for me.
darthphineas
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I grabbed a few for a test guitar (ESP M-II) for easier swaps. the Liberators took up too much real estate and wouldn't even fit in the cavity. seemed like a good idea, but didn't work out for my purposes.
I grabbed a few for a test guitar (ESP M-II) for easier swaps. the Liberators took up too much real estate and wouldn't even fit in the cavity. seemed like a good idea, but didn't work out for my purposes.
beaubrummels
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I use terminal strips in guitars that I swap frequently. Solderless does not affect the tone. I even test whole wiring harnesses with all alligator clip wires. As long as the wires have a good connection, you'll hear the same sound. But solderless connectors, regardless of type, take up a little more space, so that's a consideration.
I use terminal strips in guitars that I swap frequently. Solderless does not affect the tone. I even test whole wiring harnesses with all alligator clip wires. As long as the wires have a good connection, you'll hear the same sound. But solderless connectors, regardless of type, take up a little more space, so that's a consideration.
Re: Thoughts on Seymour Duncan Liberator? Considering installing them!!!
I have never had a problem with them. I do understand that they take up real estate, but if they fit, they are a great solution. I have never noticed any sort of tone difference, though. I used to just attach snap connectors to everything (still do, for pickguards), but the Liberator works very well if you have enough space.
I have never had a problem with them. I do understand that they take up real estate, but if they fit, they are a great solution. I have never noticed any sort of tone difference, though. I used to just attach snap connectors to everything (still do, for pickguards), but the Liberator works very well if you have enough space.
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Re: Thoughts on Seymour Duncan Liberator? Considering installing them!!!
Why...don't you answer both questions?
Why...don't you answer both questions?
Dahla
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Thoughts on Seymour Duncan Liberator? Considering installing them!!!
I tried it three times. Twice it didn't fit in the cavity (Explorer and tele), and the third it was such a PITA to get the pickup wires inside the holes inside the cavity, so that the next time I swapped pickups I removed everything and soldered like normal.
Would provably work better on a strat pickguard or something, where everything is easily accessible.
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I tried it three times. Twice it didn't fit in the cavity (Explorer and tele), and the third it was such a PITA to get the pickup wires inside the holes inside the cavity, so that the next time I swapped pickups I removed everything and soldered like normal.
Would provably work better on a strat pickguard or something, where everything is easily accessible.
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ICTGoober
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My clients thought they ended up being a PITA, and affected their tones adversely.
I thought it was just too much soldering of cheap connectors. It's a half-assed solution, when for best performance - properly soldered old school connections work best, and sound best.
Ultimately, it's a solution that sounds great in theory - but doesn't come close to the magic promised in the real world.
Why...don't you answer both questions?
My clients thought they ended up being a PITA, and affected their tones adversely.
I thought it was just too much soldering of cheap connectors. It's a half-assed solution, when for best performance - properly soldered old school connections work best, and sound best.
Ultimately, it's a solution that sounds great in theory - but doesn't come close to the magic promised in the real world.
Re: Thoughts on Seymour Duncan Liberator? Considering installing them!!!
I've never noticed a sonic difference between a screwed-in solution like the Liberator, a clipped in connection like Gibson uses or solder. I think you can argue for ease of use issues in your particular guitar, but a good connection is a good connection.
I've never noticed a sonic difference between a screwed-in solution like the Liberator, a clipped in connection like Gibson uses or solder. I think you can argue for ease of use issues in your particular guitar, but a good connection is a good connection.
LtKojak
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Re: Thoughts on Seymour Duncan Liberator? Considering installing them!!!
The product works exactly as advertised. I have an one-vol, one-tone HB guitar with those I use, you know, to test p'ups?
If the "toanz" are/were affected, unless the pot(s) are(were) way off-spec, (did you measure the pot(s), by any chance?) you may look elsewhere, starting with contemplating the possibility of user-error by faulty installation and/or having not met falsely-created expectations due to lacking of basic understanding of what the product is and what it does against what they thought the product was and what it supposed to do. To be able to use this product correctly, the user need to know how to work with the coils' color codes and/or how to act in the presence of braided wire, things your "clients" maybe were not be aware of?
Classic case of PEBCAK principle (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard)?
HTH,
I'd like to see where you, or anybody else, for that matter, saw or heard about "promised magic", whatever that suppose to mean.
The product works exactly as advertised. I have an one-vol, one-tone HB guitar with those I use, you know, to test p'ups?
If the "toanz" are/were affected, unless the pot(s) are(were) way off-spec, (did you measure the pot(s), by any chance?) you may look elsewhere, starting with contemplating the possibility of user-error by faulty installation and/or having not met falsely-created expectations due to lacking of basic understanding of what the product is and what it does against what they thought the product was and what it supposed to do. To be able to use this product correctly, the user need to know how to work with the coils' color codes and/or how to act in the presence of braided wire, things your "clients" maybe were not be aware of?
Classic case of PEBCAK principle (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard)?
HTH,
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