True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
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True! Did I pass???
Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
True! Did I pass???
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Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
what i know is that for a while - i think late 80s early 90s
fender was using poor poplar bodies and putting thin alder laminates on the otp and backsof their burst finishes - you can tell because they were covering the glueline around the outside of the body with a very thick outer burst color
Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
what i know is that for a while - i think late 80s early 90s
fender was using poor poplar bodies and putting thin alder laminates on the otp and backsof their burst finishes - you can tell because they were covering the glueline around the outside of the body with a very thick outer burst color
jmh151
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Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
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True. That's why there's a slight upcharge for a sunburst. With Gibson and PRS, many times they'll start carving a highly flamed piece of maple, but then a knot may show up as they carve it, so they paint it instead. That's what they did on mine.
Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
True. That's why there's a slight upcharge for a sunburst. With Gibson and PRS, many times they'll start carving a highly flamed piece of maple, but then a knot may show up as they carve it, so they paint it instead. That's what they did on mine.
the guy who invented fire
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the test is to look at the burst...this only works on Fender with a belly cut, if the entire belly cut is black it is a several piece body with alder laminates...if the bellt cut is bursted like the front of the body it is alder. SAD BUT TRUE!!!
Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
the test is to look at the burst...this only works on Fender with a belly cut, if the entire belly cut is black it is a several piece body with alder laminates...if the bellt cut is bursted like the front of the body it is alder. SAD BUT TRUE!!!
dr.barlo
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That's why you guys need to check the back of the guitar, the belly contour to be exact. If it is dark, there is a high probability that it's laminated.
I have a 90 american standard, and I see the lines where 3 pieces of the body was glued. It sounds nothing but great.
MRID, sure they use better looking wood, but that does not mean it's gonna sound better. Fender should start hand selecting the wood they are to use, because otherwise in order find the one, lots and lotsa strats need to be a/b-ed.
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Blueline said:
That's why you guys need to check the back of the guitar, the belly contour to be exact. If it is dark, there is a high probability that it's laminated.
I have a 90 american standard, and I see the lines where 3 pieces of the body was glued. It sounds nothing but great.
MRID, sure they use better looking wood, but that does not mean it's gonna sound better. Fender should start hand selecting the wood they are to use, because otherwise in order find the one, lots and lotsa strats need to be a/b-ed.
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Thames
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I have an early 90 Strat Plus, sounds incredible, and that belly contour is all black, however, I can see its a 3-piece alder body.
Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
I have an early 90 Strat Plus, sounds incredible, and that belly contour is all black, however, I can see its a 3-piece alder body.
dr.barlo
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That's what counts.
I dunno about you but I love that thicker strat neck, feels right. The others are thinner and I am not that comfortable with them.
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Thames said:
That's what counts.
I dunno about you but I love that thicker strat neck, feels right. The others are thinner and I am not that comfortable with them.
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Curly
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that's the bottom line
during the 60s, sunbursts were the standard finish on Fenders ... they bleached the alder to smooth out differences in coloration, then prepped the bodies the same
if a burst didn't turn out right, the body was used for a solid custom color ... some of the custom color strats now show the burst underneath if there are wear spots
just think - in the old days, a custom color ( and there was a fairly good selection) was listed as a 5% upcharge. Try getting a custom color now! I've heard it automatically becomes a "Custom Shop" order
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dr.barlo said:
that's the bottom line
during the 60s, sunbursts were the standard finish on Fenders ... they bleached the alder to smooth out differences in coloration, then prepped the bodies the same
if a burst didn't turn out right, the body was used for a solid custom color ... some of the custom color strats now show the burst underneath if there are wear spots
just think - in the old days, a custom color ( and there was a fairly good selection) was listed as a 5% upcharge. Try getting a custom color now! I've heard it automatically becomes a "Custom Shop" order
Neeradj
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The tummy cut on my Fender is also black, but I can clearly see it's a two piece body :dance: from the front and perhaps the back
Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
The tummy cut on my Fender is also black, but I can clearly see it's a two piece body :dance: from the front and perhaps the back
dr.barlo
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Fender itself was the custom shop back then, no? Now, at least 1250 to get a nitro finish 3c sunburst. :banghead:
I like 3c bursts, but I think my love for mary kay white is stronger. I think it simple looks graceful you know. Seeing the grain of ash is mighty cool.
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Curly said:that's the bottom line
during the 60s, sunbursts were the standard finish on Fenders ... they bleached the alder to smooth out differences in coloration, then prepped the bodies the same
if a burst didn't turn out right, the body was used for a solid custom color ... some of the custom color strats now show the burst underneath if there are wear spots
just think - in the old days, a custom color ( and there was a fairly good selection) was listed as a 5% upcharge. Try getting a custom color now! I've heard it automatically becomes a "Custom Shop" order
Fender itself was the custom shop back then, no? Now, at least 1250 to get a nitro finish 3c sunburst. :banghead:
I like 3c bursts, but I think my love for mary kay white is stronger. I think it simple looks graceful you know. Seeing the grain of ash is mighty cool.
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Gearjoneser
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Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
I think if Fender is able to sue copycats for stealing their designs, customers should be able to sue Fender for putting the sticker "solid alder body" on the pickguard, when if fact it's got laminations and poplar included. It's false advertising.
I used to buy American Strats, use them, and sell them, just to always have a different colors. It was then that I noticed how some strats just sound dead, and others have a nice resonant ring to them, when you put your ear to the upper horn.
I usually stay away from any painted guitar where I can see the seam through the paint. It's a bad sign. In my experience, sunburst alder sounds the best to me.
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I think if Fender is able to sue copycats for stealing their designs, customers should be able to sue Fender for putting the sticker "solid alder body" on the pickguard, when if fact it's got laminations and poplar included. It's false advertising.
I used to buy American Strats, use them, and sell them, just to always have a different colors. It was then that I noticed how some strats just sound dead, and others have a nice resonant ring to them, when you put your ear to the upper horn.
I usually stay away from any painted guitar where I can see the seam through the paint. It's a bad sign. In my experience, sunburst alder sounds the best to me.
Imp
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Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
aye, my MIJ strat has a glue line down the middle, and it's proud of it
i like the wide grain sunbursts, the MIM i have is blatently a cap...
go sunburst strats! :burnout:
Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
aye, my MIJ strat has a glue line down the middle, and it's proud of it
i like the wide grain sunbursts, the MIM i have is blatently a cap...
go sunburst strats! :burnout:
dr.barlo
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Re: True/False: Sunburst-finished (Fender) guitars use better wood and fewer pieces...
Same here.
The story how I found my mary kay white strat was kinda different. I was checking the inventory during Mars' bankruptcy sale, and those fools even then did not drop the price that much. I remember seeing a 3c burst alder american series strat with a nasty mark on the front contour of the guitar for $800. :blackeye: Anyway, up in the 4th row I saw that white one. My first guitar was a korean vintage white squire, and I always regretted letting it go. So I got the sliding ladder, and started climbing, got the guitar. And from the dust it allocated it was obvious that it's been there for quite a while. It turns out to be more than a year. Anyway the strings were all dead, full of rust. But the second I hit them strings, it was obvious that this guitar was a winner.
Really at that second I decided to get it. Then I asked the price! It was $500-510 I don't remember, because it had a very tiny like the tip of a pen, crack through which the wood was visible. Deep ding you know. It is on the side of the guitar, below the jackplate.
Got it and has been a great purchase. Now it is a great tele (bridge) and strat (neck and middle).
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Gearjoneser said:
Same here.
The story how I found my mary kay white strat was kinda different. I was checking the inventory during Mars' bankruptcy sale, and those fools even then did not drop the price that much. I remember seeing a 3c burst alder american series strat with a nasty mark on the front contour of the guitar for $800. :blackeye: Anyway, up in the 4th row I saw that white one. My first guitar was a korean vintage white squire, and I always regretted letting it go. So I got the sliding ladder, and started climbing, got the guitar. And from the dust it allocated it was obvious that it's been there for quite a while. It turns out to be more than a year. Anyway the strings were all dead, full of rust. But the second I hit them strings, it was obvious that this guitar was a winner.
Really at that second I decided to get it. Then I asked the price! It was $500-510 I don't remember, because it had a very tiny like the tip of a pen, crack through which the wood was visible. Deep ding you know. It is on the side of the guitar, below the jackplate.
Got it and has been a great purchase. Now it is a great tele (bridge) and strat (neck and middle).
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MurderByDeath
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