Upgrading active electronics...

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If you want to avoid exchanging the electronics you need to find out what kind of pickups you have there.

Basically the questions are:
  • High impedance pickups that would work fine passive but have (a) preamp(s) in the cavity just for kicks
  • Low impedance pickups that much have a preamp
  • Pickups with individual preamps built in (like EMGs)

I would say the individual preamps built in sounds like the best option for me right now. Darnit, I wish I had the bass with me at my house right now, but it's at my bassist's house. I want to go open it up now.


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A typical packaged pair of EMG or SD/Blackouts for Bass pickups will come with two volume pots and a master tone pot à la Fender Jazz Bass circuit. Three-band active EQ is a separate kit.

Not quite. The emg have full fledged quickconnect solderless, the blackouts just get 3 25k minipots to solder onto the bare wire end of cables that have quick connects only on the pickup side.

And you CAN reuse the existing eq and all the pots. Blackouts/EMGs would just be soldered onto the balance/blend knob, not using ANY of the included potentiometers.
 
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Not quite. The emg have full fledged quickconnect solderless, the blackouts just get 3 25k minipots to solder onto the bare wire end of cables that have quick connects only on the pickup side.

True but the connection format has no bearing on the control harness as supplied. Fortunately, jrbowen81 seems to be aware of this.

And you CAN reuse the existing eq and all the pots. Blackouts/EMGs would just be soldered onto the balance/blend knob, not using ANY of the included potentiometers.

In this instance, I think that we can agree that Quik Connect to soldered end cabling is the tidier solution. (The previous owner of my Warwick Streamer five string bass had performed similar modifications. SD/Basslines pickups running into Warwick/MEC controls.)
 
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In this instance, I think that we can agree that Quik Connect to soldered end cabling is the tidier solution. (The previous owner of my Warwick Streamer five string bass had performed similar modifications. SD/Basslines pickups running into Warwick/MEC controls.)

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I am building my first bass, but have built electric guitars and currently have about 4 different guitars in various states of completion. I liked that someone asked you if the purpose if just to make a change. I think making a change for appearance reasons very valid and making a change to learn or to do something different also valid. Do not expect that what you do will be an upgrade, that is very subjective. Tone primarily comes from you no matter what the pickups. That is why people like Robben Ford or Rosco Beck sound very similar no matter the guitar. Your technique and your ability is the number factor for tone. If you want to upgrade, learn something new. Your bass rig even down to the speakers in your bass rig have a huge factor. If you depend on alot of pedal effects, they can be BIG TONE SUCKERS. The pickups affect the sound, but are not in the same league as your bass rig or your technique.
So anytime you make changes, think about it being in terms of your tone delivery system. That is everything between your fingers and the speakers. People will say a given pickup is dull, but if you take out the tone control and run direct that same pu might take your head off with treble. So often people spend $100 when a 30 cent capacitor would do the same job likely better. So if you are looking for the Holy Grail of sound for your technique, just changing a pickup has a good chance of being unsatisfactory. If you look at everything and start with the cheaper things to change like changing a capacitor, changing a guitar cable, changing a speaker all make a difference. One of the biggest differences is to have your bass properly set up. If it is not set up to your playing, you will never be satisfied and a well set up bass is basic (pun) to any changes, because everytime you make a change, you have to ask, did I get closer or farther away to my goal? I am not saying that you should or should not change a pickup or add active elect, just to consider all the other factors that affect tone esp the ones that are more effective than pick up changing. If you want upgrade, then technique really is the only option, like the musician who stopped a guy on the street to ask directions to Carnegie Hall. The man replied if you want to go to Carnegie Hall, its practice man, practice.
 
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