Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
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VinceT
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Re: Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
I don’t have a Vapor Trail, so can’t comment on specific settings.
Generally, to widen sound, the trick is to use a fairly short delay time, small number of repeats, and low mix, so the delay is there but “not there”. The way I test this is to play a long, fast passage and if I notice the repeats while playing, it’s too much. Ideally, I only notice the repeats when I stop the run.
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I don’t have a Vapor Trail, so can’t comment on specific settings.
Generally, to widen sound, the trick is to use a fairly short delay time, small number of repeats, and low mix, so the delay is there but “not there”. The way I test this is to play a long, fast passage and if I notice the repeats while playing, it’s too much. Ideally, I only notice the repeats when I stop the run.
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Aceman
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Re: Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
I hate delay into a dirty amp. Sucks.
I'd go dirt pedal into delay into clean amp.
As you said - have to set it so low you almost can't use them IMO. Or at least not really use their full range of tones/sounds/effects.
I hate delay into a dirty amp. Sucks.
I'd go dirt pedal into delay into clean amp.
As you said - have to set it so low you almost can't use them IMO. Or at least not really use their full range of tones/sounds/effects.
JB_From_Hell
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Re: Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
Unless you're going for that effect where the repeats gradually clean up, I agree.
Unless you're going for that effect where the repeats gradually clean up, I agree.
Re: Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
I'm not sure, but it's a modded amp by BFG and Brian said changing the tube loop would alter the tone of the amp and I don't wanna do that. Do those Ebtech line converters work?
I'm not sure, but it's a modded amp by BFG and Brian said changing the tube loop would alter the tone of the amp and I don't wanna do that. Do those Ebtech line converters work?
misterwhizzy
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Re: Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
This is why I installed an FX loop in my single-channel amp and why I'll never buy another amp without a functional loop. Delay and modulation don't work for me out front.
This is why I installed an FX loop in my single-channel amp and why I'll never buy another amp without a functional loop. Delay and modulation don't work for me out front.
Re: Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
I don't like delay into a dirty amp at all, so my solution would be the Vapor Trail's insert jack into another clean amp. Just run the delays through there, and use a volume pedal to alter their volume in real time (I do this).
I don't like delay into a dirty amp at all, so my solution would be the Vapor Trail's insert jack into another clean amp. Just run the delays through there, and use a volume pedal to alter their volume in real time (I do this).
devastone
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Re: Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
Is the problem that the loop is too hot for the pedal? If so, yes the Ebtech converters work, I had to use one with a Randall RM50 that had a really hot loop. What kind of amp is it? There are ways to lower the send level and pick the signal back up on the return that shouldn't drastically alter the tone.
Is the problem that the loop is too hot for the pedal? If so, yes the Ebtech converters work, I had to use one with a Randall RM50 that had a really hot loop. What kind of amp is it? There are ways to lower the send level and pick the signal back up on the return that shouldn't drastically alter the tone.
Dave Locher
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Re: Vapor Trail Out Front with High Gain Amp: How Do You Set it?
Thar you go! I'm not big on delay in general, but when I do use one this is how I set it up. It really helps to find one with some sort of tone control, or mod it to darken the repeats.
Thar you go! I'm not big on delay in general, but when I do use one this is how I set it up. It really helps to find one with some sort of tone control, or mod it to darken the repeats.