Velcro & Pedals (!?!$#@^)

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I have a Pedaltrain PT2 board, which works great for most pedals. It is covered in the 'loop' side velcro. The hook side secures to most pedals without a problem and is very stable. However, on pedals with rubberized baseplates, the glue won't stick. I've tried hot glue, which doesn't work...and I really don't want to screw up the pedals with superglue. Any other ideas??
 
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I know you don't want to hear this but your best bet is to peel off the factory rubber base and get to the bare metal.
 
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i've read of guys fashioning 'base plates' for the pedals out of wood or metal ... if you can fnd a way to secure the pedal to the plate, then you can velcro the plate to the pedal board ... maybe find a way to take the screws out of the pedal and get longer ones that can fit thru holes in the plate before screwing into the pedal bottom

good luck
t4d
 
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I've never had this problem. My MXR and Boss pedals have the rubber on the bottom and the velcro sticks no problem. What you need to do is clean the bottom of the pedal where you plan on putting the velcro strip prior to putting it on. It will not come off after that.

Wipe it down good getting all the dirt off with an alcohol wipe or just rubbing alcohol on a clean lint free cloth and let it dry. Then put the velcro on.

Use the industrial strength 3M velcro from Home Depot or Lowe's. It holds better, both the glue and the hook/loop fasteners.
 
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SeraphimTN said:
Magnets.
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NOOOOOOOO!!!! :smack:

Never EVER put magnets on your pedals. The opamps and other little sensitive parts in there will be dead (especially in digital pedals). Do you stick magnets to the side of your computer?
 
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ErikH said:
NOOOOOOOO!!!! :smack:

Never EVER put magnets on your pedals. The opamps and other little sensitive parts in there will be dead (especially in digital pedals). Do you stick magnets to the side of your computer?
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Haha, I've never used magnets for either...now I know not to lol.:smack:
 
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ErikH said:
NOOOOOOOO!!!! :smack:

Never EVER put magnets on your pedals. The opamps and other little sensitive parts in there will be dead (especially in digital pedals). Do you stick magnets to the side of your computer?
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Magnets won't hurt the opamps or anything, unless you are using a super electro-magnet or something. The reason you don't use magnets around your computer is that your hard disks are magnetic media, if you get a magnet to close to them it will corrupt them, effectively erasing them.

I still wouldn't try to use magnets to hold pedals down. I agree with Erik on cleaning the rubber pads so the velcro can stick to it better.
 
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A magnet is a magnet. Yes, some are stronger than others but opamps are very sensative to magnetic fields. I've destroyed one or two accidentally by sitting them next to a pickup not knowing otherwise. Granted it may not kill it right away being attached to the outside of the box but not a risk worth taking. Computer memory doesn't like magnets either. ;)
 
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if you're careful you can peel off the rubber in one piece so you can glue it back on tot he pedal later and no one would know it was off. so....just peel off the rbber and then stick the velcro to the metal base of the pedal in place of the rubber. that's what i did with all mine and they hold MUCH better now (i tried it with the rubber at first) and i have a stack of rubber bases tht i can glue back on if i ever needed to.

-Mike
 
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ErikH said:
A magnet is a magnet. Yes, some are stronger than others but opamps are very sensative to magnetic fields. I've destroyed one or two accidentally by sitting them next to a pickup not knowing otherwise. Granted it may not kill it right away being attached to the outside of the box but not a risk worth taking. Computer memory doesn't like magnets either. ;)
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Sorry dude, you may have killed the opamp with a static discharge or something, but a magnet won't hurt it (or RAM for that matter). There is nothing in the chips that a magnet should be able to affect. Again, a super magnet with a huge magnetic field (much bigger than a pickup magnet) "might" be able to affect the dies, but I doubt it.

Not trying to be a wisea$$ or anything, it just doesn't work that way. I actually asked a couple other more senior EEs (so you got about 60 - 70 years of experience) here if they had ever heard of anything like this, and we couldn't come up with any reason a magnet would affect an opamp.

I still wouldn't use them for a pedal board.
 
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devastone said:
Sorry dude, you may have killed the opamp with a static discharge or something, but a magnet won't hurt it (or RAM for that matter). There is nothing in the chips that a magnet should be able to affect. Again, a super magnet with a huge magnetic field (much bigger than a pickup magnet) "might" be able to affect the dies, but I doubt it.

Not trying to be a wisea$$ or anything, it just doesn't work that way. I actually asked a couple other more senior EEs (so you got about 60 - 70 years of experience) here if they had ever heard of anything like this, and we couldn't come up with any reason a magnet would affect an opamp.

I still wouldn't use them for a pedal board.
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Yeah, you're probably right. It could have been static discharge. It was in the middle of winter and I was playing with the breadboard. Probably ran my feet across the carpet one too many times. :fingersx: I just immediately blamed the pickup that was lying there.

And I'm obviously outnumbered by years of experience....LOL
 
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I will try the 'cleaning' method first...that may work. When I asked the Pedaltrain company, they suggested the 'remove all the rubber' option. You'd think by now the industry would have 'universal mounting holes' or something, like the back of LCD monitors.
 
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ErikH said:
A magnet is a magnet. Yes, some are stronger than others but opamps are very sensative to magnetic fields. I've destroyed one or two accidentally by sitting them next to a pickup not knowing otherwise. Granted it may not kill it right away being attached to the outside of the box but not a risk worth taking. Computer memory doesn't like magnets either. ;)
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yikes!!!! I'm storing all sorts of Pickups and Pedals in a large old close dresser.... opps.... Hope the magnets really don't effect my pedals..... That would be a shame as i have a large collection of Boss and some DOD FX's i've built up over the years
 
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WhoFan said:
yikes!!!! I'm storing all sorts of Pickups and Pedals in a large old close dresser.... opps.... Hope the magnets really don't effect my pedals..... That would be a shame as i have a large collection of Boss and some DOD FX's i've built up over the years
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Read further. It's ok. :6:
 
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ErikH said:
Yeah, you're probably right. It could have been static discharge. It was in the middle of winter and I was playing with the breadboard. Probably ran my feet across the carpet one too many times. :fingersx: I just immediately blamed the pickup that was lying there.

And I'm obviously outnumbered by years of experience....LOL
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I hope I didn't come across as a jerk or anything, that really wasn't my intent. That's also why I asked a couple other guys here, to double check myself.
 
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devastone said:
I hope I didn't come across as a jerk or anything, that really wasn't my intent. That's also why I asked a couple other guys here, to double check myself.
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Nah, not at all. It's cool. Was just going by my experience and what I thought was the culprit. Still, I keep magnets away from that stuff anyway just to be safe.
 
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I skimmed all the banter here and it didn't look like anyone suggested this yet so here it is: Certain pedals will allow you to take the back off and flip it around and screw it back in. Sometimes the rubber base fits inside the inner lip of the pedal chassis, or sometimes it just rests to the outside. Either way you might be able to do it. That's what I did with my old Crybaby. (although it has no rubber base) I didn't want to velcro the painted logo side, so I flipped it. I would think that on Boss and DOD pedals you might need a longer screw but it would work. Even if the screw is sitting proud becuase there's no bevel to receive it, the Velcro should make up the difference.
 
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Good suggestion, Frank. With Boss pedals that might work but not with MXR. There's a lip along the edge that fits the bottom like a candy jar lid.
 
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