Vintage sounding single coils to go with PATB-3?
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Ascension
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Texas Hots are really nice. However Surfers for the neck and middle would be a better output and tonal match for the PA plus they have slightly more output and a different attack. The A2 mags in the Texas Hots give them a slightly softer attack and they are not as articulate under higher gain plus also have slightly lower output than the Surfer neck and middle do. The Texas Hots would be a great match with say a Custom Custom SNS or PG but it won't match the quick attack and articulation of the PA very well. Had both sets in guitars and am a big fan of both but they are pretty different.
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Ascension
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Louder than the SSL1's with a warmer softer and ruder tone but not as hot or articulate as the Surfers. The Fralin vintage hots are nice and are closer to the Surfers than the Texas Hots in tone and response but with less output than ether. It came down to a Set of the Vintage Hots or Surfers when I was looking for a set to go in my Washburn USA Silveado. Both are killers but in the end I went with the Surfers.They are more suited to playing at higher gain than the Fralin set.
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eclecticsynergy
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I love the Fralin Vintage Hots but they are definitely not wound hot. And I think many get the wrong impression from the name.
I agree Antquity Surfer neck & middle or SSL-1s should pair very nicely with the PATB-3.
I don't think it would be at its best with a 250K volume though.
You don't want to take away any high end; even with 500K it's already going to be warmer than the singles.
A common HSS wiring uses a 500K volume pot with a pair of 470K resistors added so the singlecoils to see 250K.
There's a way to do it with a standard 5-way; though position 4 may be a little darker than normal.
Or you can use a Superswitch.
I agree Antquity Surfer neck & middle or SSL-1s should pair very nicely with the PATB-3.
I don't think it would be at its best with a 250K volume though.
You don't want to take away any high end; even with 500K it's already going to be warmer than the singles.
A common HSS wiring uses a 500K volume pot with a pair of 470K resistors added so the singlecoils to see 250K.
There's a way to do it with a standard 5-way; though position 4 may be a little darker than normal.
Or you can use a Superswitch.
eclecticsynergy
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Still having image attachment problems.
Here's a link to the diagram for adding two 470Ks with a Superswitch.
It includes a connection to autosplit the bridge in position 2, which isn't included in the other diagram but can be done on a standard 5-wy.
https://www.strat-talk.com/proxy.php...6041892b543806
Here's a link to the diagram for adding two 470Ks with a Superswitch.
It includes a connection to autosplit the bridge in position 2, which isn't included in the other diagram but can be done on a standard 5-wy.
https://www.strat-talk.com/proxy.php...6041892b543806
I love the Fralin Vintage Hots but they are definitely not wound hot. And I think many get the wrong impression from the name.
I agree Antquity Surfer neck & middle or SSL-1s should pair very nicely with the PATB-3.
I don't think it would be at its best with a 250K volume though.
You don't want to take away any high end; even with 500K it's already going to be warmer than the singles.
A common HSS wiring uses a 500K volume pot with a pair of 470K resistors added so the singlecoils to see 250K.
There's a way to do it with a standard 5-way; though position 4 may be a little darker than normal.
Or you can use a Superswitch.
This schematic shows the north finish as the positive for the singles and the north start positive for the bucker. Am I reading this right?
eclecticsynergy
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Yes, that's correct. Black wire is always the hot lead on Duncan humbuckers (except in nonstandard situations).
Singles vary from brand to brand - many sets have a different color hot wire for each pickup to distinguish middles from necks & bridges.
Pretty sure standard polarity for Duncan singlecoils is South to strings (except when RWRP) and white is hot.
For Fender and many other brands the standard is North up except for RWRP middle pickups.
However I think some of the Duncan Antiquities are North up like Fender.
Not 100% sure of that singlecoil info, and I gave incorrect polarity advice on another thread not too long ago.
So it definitely needs to be verified by someone who's certain.
Ascension
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Texas Hot is north leading not south so a TH is RW/RP from a normal Duncan single set. To split a Duncan humbucker normally with a single and have it hum cancel you will need to run a normal wind but if you use a Texas Hot in the middle you will need the normal RW/RP for that set middle and to use a Surfer RW/RP in the neck. I personally would run both a Surfer neck and middle with the PATB-3. Just use the Surfer RW/RP in the neck so pos 2 and 4 will both hum cancel.
GuitarStv
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I've always been curious about these. They're a little trickier to use because they're more square than regular single so you would have to modify any pickguard they're going in, and I've read that they're physically deeper than most single coil pickups so can sometimes require routing . . . is that the case?
Artie
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Unfortunately, I can't answer that. I haven't tried them either. I'm just going by what others have said. I just think they'd be a good cosmetic match.