warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

[the guy who invented fire]

I have a 2 bucker guitar that even unplugged is way too bright, Alex has suggested hotter stronger pups, infact he said the best thing to do would be a 59 neck and a Custom V in the bridge...Lew has suggested lower out put pups like Seth's. What is the real deal? The guitar is maple neck through, the mahogany wings and a maple top, ebony fingerboard, and a brass sustain block under the tone-o-matic. What kind of pups should I be looking at for a super fat LP tone?

Thanks
The guy who invented fire

 

[RG 2570]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

I have a 2 bucker guitar that even unplugged is way too bright, Alex has suggested hotter stronger pups, infact he said the best thing to do would be a 59 neck and a Custom V in the bridge...Lew has suggested lower out put pups like Seth's. What is the real deal? The guitar is maple neck through, the mahogany wings and a maple top, ebony fingerboard, and a brass sustain block under the tone-o-matic. What kind of pups should I be looking at for a super fat LP tone?

Thanks
The guy who invented fire

I was told the CC is the one for a bright guitar?

 

[Rainmaker]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/faqdescr.shtml#magnets
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There ye go matey.

Bee

 

[ranalli]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

If the CC isn't agressive enough or fat enough go Dimarzio Super Distortion or Super 3.

The CC is one of the few hums that Duncan makes where the mids are more prominent than the treble...necessary for warming up a bright guitar IMO. Unfortunately it's an A2 magnet so it's not going to be quite as tight or aggressive as a ceramic....that's why I would suggest a Dimarzio unless you want more of a classic rock/hard sound instead of a hard rock/metal sound.

 

[RG 2570]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

If the CC isn't agressive enough or fat enough go Dimarzio Super Distortion or Super 3.

The CC is one of the few hums that Duncan makes where the mids are more prominent than the treble...necessary for warming up a bright guitar IMO. Unfortunately it's an A2 magnet so it's not going to be quite as tight or aggressive as a ceramic....that's why I would suggest a Dimarzio unless you want more of a classic rock/hard sound instead of a hard rock/metal sound.

yes i agree dimarzio are very warm,like the air zone, breed or super D

 

[theodie]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

Custom custom or the Dimarzio Breed!!!!!

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

None, I repeat, none of the DiMarzio's that I tried over more than 10 years had the genuine LP tone (thick, thin whatever) I was looking for. That's my opinion! During all them years I had a late 80's or early 90's CS 8.35K PG sitting in my drawer. I remember the day I tried it, the difference was like nite and day.

First learn to use your tone control. Bright is not always bad. Raise whatever HB you are using (of course then you cannot use x2n DUH! If you don't believe me try doing it ) quite close to the strings. If possible use thicker and or pure nickerl strings. AND LEARN TO USE THE TONE CONTROL if you have not done so. Adjust your tone on the amp with the tone rolled back to 7-8 (am talking about audio tone pots, with linears it'd be like 5).

If these don't solve your problems get a CC, and try it out. If that does not work, try to find an aged antiquity magnet. And finally if that also does not work, get rid off that guitar.

B

 

[dani]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

None, I repeat, none of the DiMarzio's that I tried over more than 10 years had the genuine LP tone (thick, thin whatever) I was looking for. That's my opinion! During all them years I had a late 80's or early 90's CS 8.35K PG sitting in my drawer. I remember the day I tried it, the difference was like nite and day.

First learn to use your tone control. Bright is not always bad. Raise whatever HB you are using (of course then you cannot use x2n DUH! If you don't believe me try doing it ) quite close to the strings. If possible use thicker and or pure nickerl strings. AND LEARN TO USE THE TONE CONTROL if you have not done so. Adjust your tone on the amp with the tone rolled back to 7-8 (am talking about audio tone pots, with linears it'd be like 5).

If these don't solve your problems get a CC, and try it out. If that does not work, try to find an aged antiquity magnet. And finally if that also does not work, get rid off that guitar.

B

and again, the good doc has hit the mark!

:dance:

 

[rspst14]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

I would avoid the C5/'59 combo in a bright guitar. Both of those are bright pickups, and will only make it worse. I would go with a CC in the bridge, and an Alnico II Pro in the neck.

Ryan

 

[Stratcat]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

CC bridge A2 Neck.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

All answers point to CC and an A2 pro...I have tried everything as far as tone controls and pickup hight...I love this guitar, I just wish it sounded a little more like a 50 LP...nice and fat!

 

[Robert S.]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

The CC and either a Pearly Gates or an APH-II are the pickups I would suggest. Using 250k pots will also roll off some top end and may make some other pickup choices work very well. I have also used low value caps in the .001-.002 mf range between the pickups hot lead and ground to roll off some top end.

 

[John Wymore]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

We already talked on the phone about my recommendations for pickups but I just wanted to comment that Robert's idea above about the treble bleed may be a solution if you don't want to spring for new pickups.

What the treble bleed does is basically act like a permanent tone control to roll off the highs. The amount of highs removed is depedant on the capacitor value. I have found .002 mf seems to be a good starting value for Humbuckers.

Also, if you don't like the effect you getting with your tone controls take a look and see if your guitar has the cheap disc type capacitors. I have found that upgrading to better caps in the tone circuit will make them much more useable.

Going to lower value pots can also remove highs but can have a negative affect on clarity because it can also remove some of the upper mids. It's worth a try but isn't always a workable solution.

 

[Dills]

Re: warm up a bright axe...mixed suggestions

CC and a2 pro are the way to go