What can I do with this Push-Pull tone pot?

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I'm working on a mod for my HH guitar. I'm adding two on-off-on switches to be able to independently select which coils are active.

Currently, I am using my P/P tone pot for a coil split. Since I am about to use switches to do that, what can I use the tone P/P for in order to have even more tonal options?

I was thinking about trying to do a phase switch but I know that only affects the tone when both pups are being used, and I expect to be able to get some out-of-phase tones with the new switching.

What can I wire up? If y'all have any suggestions or cool ideas, a link to a wiring diagram would be appreciated since I have limited experience with guitar electronics.



(I have SD JB (bridge) and Jazz (neck) and a 3 way blade switch, one volume, and one tone)

 

[Clint 55]

Re: What can I do with this Push-Pull tone pot?

You could use it for a kill switch, to change to another tone cap, or to put 1 pickup in series with the other.

 

[vinnie1971]

Re: What can I do with this Push-Pull tone pot?

You could use it for a kill switch, to change to another tone cap, or to put 1 pickup in series with the other.

Good mod for a tone push pull

Down is a regular tone control

Up is a variable 2 way varitone:

Get a mouser 1.5 Henries inductor

On the Pull up set it so their are 2 caps on the lug that is normally grounded via a cap, attach one end of a .033uF cap leave the other end alone for now.
On the lug that would normally have nothing in it attach one end of a .003 uF cap.

Take both ends of the caps and solder them to then input of the inductor. Solder the inductor so it uses both full coils in series. Solder the output if the inductor to ground.

You now have a tone shaper like the Rothstein tone shaper that counter clockwise scoops mids and clock wise shaves off the top treble and lowest bass giving the impression of boosting mids as the resonant peak will now be focused in the mids. Both are really cool and are my 2 favourite notches on the Gibson varitone.




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[sparkplug]

Re: What can I do with this Push-Pull tone pot?

You could use it for a kill switch, to change to another tone cap, or to put 1 pickup in series with the other.

what exactly does putting them in series do? I assume that means they are typically in parallel? (Is that what a series/parallel wiring diagram is for?)

 

[sparkplug]

Re: What can I do with this Push-Pull tone pot?

Good mod for a tone push pull

Down is a regular tone control
Up is a variable 2 way varitone:
Get a mouser 1.5 Henries inductor
On the Pull up set it so their are 2 caps on the lug that is normally grounded via a cap, attach one end of a .033uF cap leave the other end alone for now.
On the lug that would normally have nothing in it attach one end of a .003 uF cap.
Take both ends of the caps and solder them to then input of the inductor. Solder the inductor so it uses both full coils in series. Solder the output if the inductor to ground.
You now have a tone shaper like the Rothstein tone shaper that counter clockwise scoops mids and clock wise shaves off the top treble and lowest bass giving the impression of boosting mids as the resonant peak will now be focused in the mids. Both are really cool and are my 2 favourite notches on the Gibson varitone
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Man, I'll find more details on this. That sounds awesome!

 

[Clint 55]

Re: What can I do with this Push-Pull tone pot?

https://youtu.be/WxbaBWPTT2k

This video explains it perfectly.

 

[vinnie1971]

What can I do with this Push-Pull tone pot?

Man, I'll find more details on this. That sounds awesome!

Here's a diagram from the Internet below.

ignore the cap values, they are wrong (decimal points in the wrong place and there are better values to use - the Ines I suggest are better, plus it works better if both caps in the pull position are wired to the inductor - on the 0.033 uF cap you don't need a resistor as you just want to scoop mids, the resistor will actually cut some bass, not a bad thing but I think it works better without. On the other cap for resonant peak mid boost ( it's not really a boost as it's a passive circuit it just sounds that way) use 0.0033 uFcap with a 220k resistor- that really gives a honky mid range tone , but again you can leave the resistor out, it will still work but it sounds better with - try it out, just don't twist the resistor leads so much so you make the control without them, see what you think then solder the resistors on, see what you think.

In the down position if you have humbuckers, your choice of cap but I prefer 0.015 uF to 0.022 to get that really cool woman tone when you roll the tone right back, and for single coils 0.022uF for the same reason - the resonant peak sounds similar. But let your ears decide.

To take full advantage of the inductor hook 1 up to the caps on the inductor, 3 and 4 join together and 6 goes to ground.

Carefully snip and tape over 2 and 5:

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