LedSabbath
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I am looking for a wah that will give me a good Led Zeppelin / Cream wah tone.
What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
Yes but the supposedly modified them quite a bit or use models that are no longer available.
Yes but the supposedly modified them quite a bit or use models that are no longer available.
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
i thought he used colorsound wahs. Colorsound also made wahs for vox in the 70s too.
Dunno if its worth much but have one of these old vox/colorsound wahs. Its not bad at all.
For cream sounds then out of the modern wahs id look at something with a yellow fasel inductor, or if you want to spend more money then check out the Teese wahs (he makes one called "wheels of fire") and fulltone clyde pedals.\
Still those things are a lot cheaper, better and probably more reliable than an old 60s vox so really its money well spent.
i thought he used colorsound wahs. Colorsound also made wahs for vox in the 70s too.
Dunno if its worth much but have one of these old vox/colorsound wahs. Its not bad at all.
For cream sounds then out of the modern wahs id look at something with a yellow fasel inductor, or if you want to spend more money then check out the Teese wahs (he makes one called "wheels of fire") and fulltone clyde pedals.\
Still those things are a lot cheaper, better and probably more reliable than an old 60s vox so really its money well spent.
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JeffB
Let it B
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
Have fun: quite detailed research on all his gear over the years
LINK
And yes most newer VOX pedals sound nothing like the originals. Schenker gave up on wahs for years because he could never find any that sounded like his original and his was beyond repair.
Nowadays we have better options, but they are pretty pricey.
I played a Buddah wah pedal a couple years back that was the only one to ALMOST get me to crack open my wallet-I haven't used a wah myself in almost 20 years cos most of them suck..or rather, don't sound like the old ones do...not to mention they are so overused/abused, but I'm getting OT now
Have fun: quite detailed research on all his gear over the years
LINK
And yes most newer VOX pedals sound nothing like the originals. Schenker gave up on wahs for years because he could never find any that sounded like his original and his was beyond repair.
Nowadays we have better options, but they are pretty pricey.
I played a Buddah wah pedal a couple years back that was the only one to ALMOST get me to crack open my wallet-I haven't used a wah myself in almost 20 years cos most of them suck..or rather, don't sound like the old ones do...not to mention they are so overused/abused, but I'm getting OT now
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
Early on Page used one of the old grey Vox wahs and those sound NOTHINMG like a Clyde or an 846...later on he used Crybaby wahs made by Jen. Clapton used a Clyde during Cream...
The old grey Vox wahs are very thin and bright and have a rather narrow sweep...I wanted one for years and then after playing a number of repros in recent years I still don;t have one, they are really not very good wahs to be honest...they will nail the wah stuff on LZI but past that they are thin, bright and sort of worthless for almost anything else...
If I were you I'd get a nice close of a Clyde and be done with it...that will get you the Cream sound and get close to later Zep...
I am a big fan of Wilson wahs and have his Clyde clone, the RMC stuff is good too but I did have construction issues with mine, the Fulltone Clyde can be a great sounding wah but I hate the way they feel under my foot...
Early on Page used one of the old grey Vox wahs and those sound NOTHINMG like a Clyde or an 846...later on he used Crybaby wahs made by Jen. Clapton used a Clyde during Cream...
The old grey Vox wahs are very thin and bright and have a rather narrow sweep...I wanted one for years and then after playing a number of repros in recent years I still don;t have one, they are really not very good wahs to be honest...they will nail the wah stuff on LZI but past that they are thin, bright and sort of worthless for almost anything else...
If I were you I'd get a nice close of a Clyde and be done with it...that will get you the Cream sound and get close to later Zep...
I am a big fan of Wilson wahs and have his Clyde clone, the RMC stuff is good too but I did have construction issues with mine, the Fulltone Clyde can be a great sounding wah but I hate the way they feel under my foot...
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
Sure were but the "Vox wah" changed a dozen times between 1967 and 1970...
Sure were but the "Vox wah" changed a dozen times between 1967 and 1970...
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
Modded, no...Jimi, Jimmy, Jeff, Eric, etc...these guys bought wahs right off the rack and recorded with them now they did use whas that are no longer available today but there are lots of clones out there...
Modded, no...Jimi, Jimmy, Jeff, Eric, etc...these guys bought wahs right off the rack and recorded with them now they did use whas that are no longer available today but there are lots of clones out there...
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
Page nor Clapton used Colorsound wahs...
The new fasel unductors sound NOTHING like the old fasles, trust me.
The Teese WoF wah is a terrible name for a wah...the name leads people to think Cream but the WoF is based on a Solasound built Colorsound wah, it nails that sound but sounds nothing like Eric in Cream.
Page nor Clapton used Colorsound wahs...
The new fasel unductors sound NOTHING like the old fasles, trust me.
The Teese WoF wah is a terrible name for a wah...the name leads people to think Cream but the WoF is based on a Solasound built Colorsound wah, it nails that sound but sounds nothing like Eric in Cream.
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
So which track(s) did Page use a wah on? How Many More Times is the only one I can recall, and that's easy enough to do with a Dunlop GCB-95.
But since we're talking old wahs, what'd Iommi use on Supernaut and A National Acrobat? Haven't been able to get my Crybaby to do that as closely as I'd like.
So which track(s) did Page use a wah on? How Many More Times is the only one I can recall, and that's easy enough to do with a Dunlop GCB-95.
But since we're talking old wahs, what'd Iommi use on Supernaut and A National Acrobat? Haven't been able to get my Crybaby to do that as closely as I'd like.
drew_half_empty
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Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
they said in this wah doc i watched that back in the day vox and crybaby wahs were the same thing, just branded differently depending on where they were being sold
that being said, the best zep wah tone i've gotten has been out of an old thomas organ crybaby, but again every one sounds different
they said in this wah doc i watched that back in the day vox and crybaby wahs were the same thing, just branded differently depending on where they were being sold
that being said, the best zep wah tone i've gotten has been out of an old thomas organ crybaby, but again every one sounds different
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
i went to their site.....reminds me a lot of my morleys kind of sound...weird...
i went to their site.....reminds me a lot of my morleys kind of sound...weird...
SLagonegro
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Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
I know this is an older post, but I think the Dunlop JH-1 Jimi Hendrix Wah comes pretty close. It is a repro of the Thomas Organ Wahs I believe.
I know this is an older post, but I think the Dunlop JH-1 Jimi Hendrix Wah comes pretty close. It is a repro of the Thomas Organ Wahs I believe.
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DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
Of course I forgot to say earlier that Page did a TON of post-production and had recording tricks out the butt, so what you're hearing on a record may not have been what was coming out of just one amp into just one mic. The mics, the mixer those mics ran into, whatever box or hallway or woodshed he had the amp and mic in, how many different amps he split off to at once, all those have to be considered.
Even with Song Remains The Same, you would have to know everything about the stage setup, where all the cables went (backstage to various other miked amps?)
I attempted some Crybaby mods some years ago, adding resistors inline with the inductor and such, as well as at other various points in the circuit, and got several different results, until I finally killed it with a hot iron.
I'd say open up the wah and get some resistors and capacitors, and some alligator clips and start clipping things in til you find something that doesn't start a fire.
Of course I forgot to say earlier that Page did a TON of post-production and had recording tricks out the butt, so what you're hearing on a record may not have been what was coming out of just one amp into just one mic. The mics, the mixer those mics ran into, whatever box or hallway or woodshed he had the amp and mic in, how many different amps he split off to at once, all those have to be considered.
Even with Song Remains The Same, you would have to know everything about the stage setup, where all the cables went (backstage to various other miked amps?)
I attempted some Crybaby mods some years ago, adding resistors inline with the inductor and such, as well as at other various points in the circuit, and got several different results, until I finally killed it with a hot iron.
I'd say open up the wah and get some resistors and capacitors, and some alligator clips and start clipping things in til you find something that doesn't start a fire.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: What is best Jimmy Page style wah?
If you do overheat something, Dunlop replacement PCB's are cheap. If you've got 2 or 3 wah's and put an upgraded board in one, you then have a spare to mod.
If you do overheat something, Dunlop replacement PCB's are cheap. If you've got 2 or 3 wah's and put an upgraded board in one, you then have a spare to mod.
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