guitarzinc10
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change pickups or do mods and you get "that sound" you've been looking for, do you still have "that sound" when you're in a band setting?
When you guys
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Funkfingers
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I tend to think of this the other way around to what you describe.
I find something that works in a band or recording context. Then, I listen to it in a workshop setting. If I can make, for example, a Telecaster that I am modding sound like one that I already know sounds good in a full band context, I can be confident that the newly modded guitar should also work well in a similar band context.
Also, after thirty years, I guess that you kinda develop a knack.
I tend to think of this the other way around to what you describe.
I find something that works in a band or recording context. Then, I listen to it in a workshop setting. If I can make, for example, a Telecaster that I am modding sound like one that I already know sounds good in a full band context, I can be confident that the newly modded guitar should also work well in a similar band context.
Also, after thirty years, I guess that you kinda develop a knack.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: When you guys
Sometimes yes, sometimes no, depends on the venue and it's acoustics, and how many people are in the room. But all that means is that you adjust the EQ on the amp accordingly.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no, depends on the venue and it's acoustics, and how many people are in the room. But all that means is that you adjust the EQ on the amp accordingly.
guitarzinc10
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Re: When you guys
Yes I do re eq the amp(s) but "that sound" seems to disappear then I'm disappointed. The only pup that ssems to work everytime is the JB and I don't want a JB in every guitar I use to play live.
Yes I do re eq the amp(s) but "that sound" seems to disappear then I'm disappointed. The only pup that ssems to work everytime is the JB and I don't want a JB in every guitar I use to play live.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: When you guys
Part of it is that your sound changes as the volumes changes. So typical at-home/bedroom volumes produce certain tones, and then when you crank it up it sounds different. Part of the solution: play louder at home.
Also, what you hear on stage can be very different than what the audience hears. A PU may sound great from where you're standing, but the people in front may be getting a shrill high-end 'beamed' at them, and be somewhat less than thrilled with your tone. Where do you stand relative to the amp? I see local bands and often I can't even hear an instrument or two, one may be dominating the others (usually the bass), and the EQ may be all muddy. I know they can't be hearing that same mess on stage (well, I hope not). Prior to the gig starting, it's a good idea to have a long cord and stand out where the audience would be, and listen to your band playing and how your guitar sounds.
Part of it is that your sound changes as the volumes changes. So typical at-home/bedroom volumes produce certain tones, and then when you crank it up it sounds different. Part of the solution: play louder at home.
Also, what you hear on stage can be very different than what the audience hears. A PU may sound great from where you're standing, but the people in front may be getting a shrill high-end 'beamed' at them, and be somewhat less than thrilled with your tone. Where do you stand relative to the amp? I see local bands and often I can't even hear an instrument or two, one may be dominating the others (usually the bass), and the EQ may be all muddy. I know they can't be hearing that same mess on stage (well, I hope not). Prior to the gig starting, it's a good idea to have a long cord and stand out where the audience would be, and listen to your band playing and how your guitar sounds.
Diego
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Re: When you guys
That's what I do, and what everyone should do.
It's all about the Pareto Principle. 80% of the tone and details you hear alone in your bedroom, or just playing by yourself on stage while the rest of the band is setting their gear up, dissapears on the band context.
There's a defining 20% of the sound you gotta worry about. If the bass is chewy or a little bit muddy or this or that, pretty much nobody notices.
That's why the JB is so damn effective live, despite all the common flaws that arise when guys analize it further.
It makes all the sense in the world for a band context.
That's what I do, and what everyone should do.
It's all about the Pareto Principle. 80% of the tone and details you hear alone in your bedroom, or just playing by yourself on stage while the rest of the band is setting their gear up, dissapears on the band context.
There's a defining 20% of the sound you gotta worry about. If the bass is chewy or a little bit muddy or this or that, pretty much nobody notices.
That's why the JB is so damn effective live, despite all the common flaws that arise when guys analize it further.
It makes all the sense in the world for a band context.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: When you guys
Absolutely. I've many heard local bands with atrocious mixes. No matter how tight your band is, and how talented you are musically, if half the intruments are drowned out, or the EQ is all mud, you're going to sound like crap. I've heard guys talk to the audience between songs, and the PA is EQ'd so poorly, no one in the audience can understand anything they say. You gotta know what the crowd is hearing.
Absolutely. I've many heard local bands with atrocious mixes. No matter how tight your band is, and how talented you are musically, if half the intruments are drowned out, or the EQ is all mud, you're going to sound like crap. I've heard guys talk to the audience between songs, and the PA is EQ'd so poorly, no one in the audience can understand anything they say. You gotta know what the crowd is hearing.
guitarzinc10
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Re: When you guys
When I change a pickup I do all the adjustments and tweaking at stage volume using a 50 watt Mesa and a 4x12 cab. The only time I play at "bedroom" levels is late at night or when working on songs. IDK I may need to forget about "that sound" and just find a place in the mix by eqing, pedals ect.
When I change a pickup I do all the adjustments and tweaking at stage volume using a 50 watt Mesa and a 4x12 cab. The only time I play at "bedroom" levels is late at night or when working on songs. IDK I may need to forget about "that sound" and just find a place in the mix by eqing, pedals ect.
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