which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

You cannot go wrong with the AT. Also check out the Blue Spark.
While technically not a condenser mic (it's a back electret), check out the sE Magneto. I have had a lot of success with male voiceovers usig that mic. It has a really nice proximity boost with male voice.
 
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thanks bro, That blue spark and se magneto are cool!! :) I want em all I must say
 
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Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

Other possible options

Blue Bluebird
AKG C1000
Rode NT1-A
Shure SM27

staying under $300 you just miss out on...
Shure KSM32
Blue Baby Bottle
AKG C214
Audix SCX25
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

MXL V67G. Even better than the rhode NT-1 back to back and really easy to mod.
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

In that price range check out the new (black) Rode NT-1; it really punches above its weight. If you're willing to spend a little more (or go used) a Shure SM7 is a great vocal mic even if it isn't a condenser. Its only drawback is that it needs quite a bit of gain.
 
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thanks so much guys! My vocals are getting better so a good mic is warranted, thanks for the suggestions. I wont be treating my room or learning how to truly mix or anything, so the nuances of an expensive mic would be lost on me. I just press record and twist knobs, cheers :beerchug:
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

Another budget option. Samson is pretty much a budget brand by any standard but the C2 and C3 (multipattern version) are a bit of a secret in the project studio scene because of how great they are for the price. Accurate response, good s/n ratio and SPL handling and quit sturdy. (mics last ages if you treat them well. All the large studios I've seen have mics scratched and dented to hell compared to mics I've had for longer because I store and handle them with more respect).

In that price range check out the new (black) Rode NT-1; it really punches above its weight. If you're willing to spend a little more (or go used) a Shure SM7 is a great vocal mic even if it isn't a condenser. Its only drawback is that it needs quite a bit of gain.
SM-7. That's the mic James recorded ...And Justice For All with and I'm pretty sure Michael Jackson used it for Beat It.
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

SM-7. That's the mic James recorded ...And Justice For All with and I'm pretty sure Michael Jackson used it for Beat It.

I don't know about AJFA, but all of Thriller was done with an SM7. It's also the vocal mic of choice for Bono and Eddie Vedder.

Getting back to the OP's needs, an SM7 tends to be better than a condenser in untreated spaces because its lower sensitivity picks up less room sound.
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

I don't know about AJFA, but all of Thriller was done with an SM7. It's also the vocal mic of choice for Bono and Eddie Vedder.

Getting back to the OP's needs, an SM7 tends to be better than a condenser in untreated spaces because its lower sensitivity picks up less room sound.
Yeah, Thriller. Oops. Duh. That's what I meant.
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

One suggestion: Find the mic that best fits your voice - go to a store, and see if they'll let you audition them. Also, what you don't spend on the mic, spend on room treatment or isolation. Doesn't matter if you get a fantastic mic, and it picks up all of the room noise and room issues. The end result is still a rough sounding vocal track that'll be hard to get into the mix properly.
 
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all good advice! I would like to try them all. that SM7B seems to be the ticket since it is not a condenser mic (Ooh the irony) and that is what I need since I will not be treating my very small constricted apartment and am on an extreme budget. Its in the crosshairs, cheers :) THe recording engineers like it for untreated recording and for radio type applications and has practically won a grammy, I had no Idea! Michael Jackson and Steven Tyler and all.

I would like to get a mic isolation shield maybe later on to address the acoustics like this auralex mudguard:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...CPSPo5p0gVVAzaw_H_vbDJh2rqpmxHSbTmBoC_H_w_wcB
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

this dude does a great scream/sing demo of the sm7b:

 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

all good advice! I would like to try them all. that SM7B seems to be the ticket since it is not a condenser mic (Ooh the irony) and that is what I need since I will not be treating my very small constricted apartment and am on an extreme budget. Its in the crosshairs, cheers :) THe recording engineers like it for untreated recording and for radio type applications and has practically won a grammy, I had no Idea! Michael Jackson and Steven Tyler and all.

I would like to get a mic isolation shield maybe later on to address the acoustics like this auralex mudguard:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...CPSPo5p0gVVAzaw_H_vbDJh2rqpmxHSbTmBoC_H_w_wcB

this dude does a great scream/sing demo of the sm7b:

The SM7 / SM7B really is a great microphone; my only concern is that it requires quite a bit of gain to reach optimum levels on quieter sources. I don't recall what you're using for an interface / preamp, but you may need something like a Cloudlifter or Fethead to boost the signal if your preamp is too noisy.
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

Speaking of mics that are reputed to be great but aren't condensers, does anyone have an opinion of the large diaphram dynamics like the Heil PR35, PR31 or PR40?
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

The SM7 / SM7B really is a great microphone; my only concern is that it requires quite a bit of gain to reach optimum levels on quieter sources. I don't recall what you're using for an interface / preamp, but you may need something like a Cloudlifter or Fethead to boost the signal if your preamp is too noisy.

thanks for the heads up dystrust, I have been using my shure sm58 to record through my presonus audiobox 22vsl with no preamp problems, so I am thinking the SM7B should be no problem.

here is my preamp info:

https://www.presonus.com/products/AudioBox-22VSL

At PreSonus, we know that the mic preamplifier is a key component in the sonic quality of a recording. Many other companies that offer mobile recording interfaces add the cheapest possible microphone preamplifier as an afterthought. In contrast, the AudioBox 22VSL includes custom-designed, high-voltage, discrete, XMAX Class A microphone preamplifiers that are suitable for use with all types of microphones.
The job of a microphone preamplifier in an audio interface is to boost a microphone-level signal to line level before conversion to the digital domain. A good preamp boosts the level to almost 400 times that of the original signal, making the preamp one of the most important stages in an interface. A cheap, off-the-shelf, op-amp-type mic preamp delivers thin, noisy, harsh results. But with XMAX preamps, the sonic quality is limited only by what microphone you plug into it.
XMAX preamplifiers are built with three key elements:
High Voltage. The XMAX preamplifier runs on power rails of 30V. Most off-the-shelf, op-amp-based designs run on power rails of 10V to 18V. Higher-voltage power rails deliver more headroom, deeper lows, smoother highs, and a richer overall sound.
Discrete components—not op-amps. We only use genuine transistors, resistors, and capacitors. Op-amps add noise, coloration, and harshness to a signal. Our discrete design delivers ultra-low noise and transparency.
Class A. Class A circuits have no crossover distortion and deliver purer, clearer, and more musical results than the Class AB designs that are found in many preamps.

The net result of the XMAX preamp design is high headroom, low noise, wide dynamic range, extended frequency response, and—most important—musicality and transparency, with smooth highs, solid deep lows, and everything in between.
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

Speaking of mics that are reputed to be great but aren't condensers, does anyone have an opinion of the large diaphram dynamics like the Heil PR35, PR31 or PR40?

I have the PR30. It's fantastic for guitars and vocals. It's focused but broad and is an excellent primary mic for capturing guitar tone. If you want to mic up your amp and want to go with a simple one mic set up, I recommend it over the SM57 or e609 and so on.
 
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I have the PR30. It's fantastic for guitars and vocals. It's focused but broad and is an excellent primary mic for capturing guitar tone. If you want to mic up your amp and want to go with a simple one mic set up, I recommend it over the SM57 or e609 and so on.


... but what about recording situations where you would normally use a condenser?
 
Re: which condenser mic for vocals? under $300.

... but what about recording situations where you would normally use a condenser?

Right, sorry. It doesn't quite have the same sparkly, detailed highs of a condensor but it does much more so than an ordinary dynamic. It's halfway between with the focus you would expect from a dynamic and some of the clarity and range of a condensor. It's more designed for instruments and I'm yet to try the 45 (similar designed but more geared towards vocals).
 
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