Which Marshall?
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Falloffthebonetone
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Re: Which Marshall?
A SLP sounds dead on but kind of out of budget, even used.
You could try looking for clones?
The 1987X is 50 watts and less expensive. Used it fits right in your price range too.
Dsl 100 has more options than both put together, especially if you dabble in higher distortion stuff..
A SLP sounds dead on but kind of out of budget, even used.
You could try looking for clones?
The 1987X is 50 watts and less expensive. Used it fits right in your price range too.
Dsl 100 has more options than both put together, especially if you dabble in higher distortion stuff..
allbutromeo
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Re: Which Marshall?
Personally I'd get a use Vintage Modern, they can be found for $100-150 less than the new DSL, and for the bands listed would be a better amp. The matching cabs are harder to find, but a VM head with a Used 1960a cab could be had well with in your budget
Personally I'd get a use Vintage Modern, they can be found for $100-150 less than the new DSL, and for the bands listed would be a better amp. The matching cabs are harder to find, but a VM head with a Used 1960a cab could be had well with in your budget
Rich_S
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Re: Which Marshall?
I hate to be "that guy", but are you really going to be playing places big enough for a 50 watt half stack. Getting the tones for the bands you listed is largely dependent on cranking amps up to get output-stage overdrive. Those sounds don't some from preamp gain and master volumes.
Look into smaller 6V6-based Marshall-style heads in the 20-watt range from the likes of Avatar and Ceriatone. They sound great on top of a 4x12 cab without blasting the club apart.
I hate to be "that guy", but are you really going to be playing places big enough for a 50 watt half stack. Getting the tones for the bands you listed is largely dependent on cranking amps up to get output-stage overdrive. Those sounds don't some from preamp gain and master volumes.
Look into smaller 6V6-based Marshall-style heads in the 20-watt range from the likes of Avatar and Ceriatone. They sound great on top of a 4x12 cab without blasting the club apart.
Boogie Bill
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Re: Which Marshall?
For Marshalls, I like the Vintage Modern and I like the older JCM2000 DSL 50. Wouldn't necessarily turn down a good JCM 800 or the right 900 either.
If you don't necessarily have to have a Marshall, per se, there are a lot of other good amps that have British tonality that might fit in your budget. I like the Mesa 50-watt Stiletto Ace; it came in a 112, 212 and head version. If you want MORE, there's the Stiletto Deuce and Trident. I see Stiletto Deuce heads and 412s in my area within your budget. And then there's Blackstar, Orange, Hiwatt, etc.
Good luck!
Bill
For Marshalls, I like the Vintage Modern and I like the older JCM2000 DSL 50. Wouldn't necessarily turn down a good JCM 800 or the right 900 either.
If you don't necessarily have to have a Marshall, per se, there are a lot of other good amps that have British tonality that might fit in your budget. I like the Mesa 50-watt Stiletto Ace; it came in a 112, 212 and head version. If you want MORE, there's the Stiletto Deuce and Trident. I see Stiletto Deuce heads and 412s in my area within your budget. And then there's Blackstar, Orange, Hiwatt, etc.
Good luck!
Bill
Re: Which Marshall?
Hey bud, If your looking to power up to 50 watts I like the DSL it sounds good. Its easy to get a good tone from that amp and there are plenty used ones around and plenty parts. A half stack is heavy and can be really loud. I had a Silver Jubilee 50 watt half stack -it was white-that I played in the 80's with a Gibson Explorer. I sounded like poop at low volumes but around 3.5 to 4 on the volume it really came alive and had a cool gain tone after the tubes were adequetley pushed to get it. If your looking at more flexibility and portability maybe look at a marshall 40c. I like how it can be scaled down to 20 watts if needs be and you can always add a 2x12 extension cab and the whole thing would be easier to haul with the weight broken up a little between two cabinets. Its also much easier to fit in your car too and haul into a club with a dolly. The speakers are...meh....just so so but you can shove in some greenback g12h 30's or some cool creambacks and your rollin. another thing is the 40c is cheaper initially then a head and half stack so you can break up the cost a little instead of the OMG all at once sticker shock. I myself went with a EVH iii 50 watt head and 2 2x12 cabs. Even that got to be tiresome. I loved the tones I was getting but lets face it, it didn't quite sound as good at 1 watt practice levels as it does at per say....20 to 50 watts. I ended up with the EVH iii 50 watt 2x12 combo. its got a power attenuater that lets you go from 50 to 1 watt and now I dont bother anybody when I practice. I still have plenty of juice for jammin with they guys or a gig. Its also much easier to record with.
I like DSL's not the 15 watter but about every other configuration they make. Bang for the Buck the DSL 40c is almost unbeatable. I almost bought it and if I wanted a club "beater amp" to gig with and keep a real nice expensive head or boutique amp for recording or premo gigs I still am thinking about that 40c but with a speaker swap.
Hey bud, If your looking to power up to 50 watts I like the DSL it sounds good. Its easy to get a good tone from that amp and there are plenty used ones around and plenty parts. A half stack is heavy and can be really loud. I had a Silver Jubilee 50 watt half stack -it was white-that I played in the 80's with a Gibson Explorer. I sounded like poop at low volumes but around 3.5 to 4 on the volume it really came alive and had a cool gain tone after the tubes were adequetley pushed to get it. If your looking at more flexibility and portability maybe look at a marshall 40c. I like how it can be scaled down to 20 watts if needs be and you can always add a 2x12 extension cab and the whole thing would be easier to haul with the weight broken up a little between two cabinets. Its also much easier to fit in your car too and haul into a club with a dolly. The speakers are...meh....just so so but you can shove in some greenback g12h 30's or some cool creambacks and your rollin. another thing is the 40c is cheaper initially then a head and half stack so you can break up the cost a little instead of the OMG all at once sticker shock. I myself went with a EVH iii 50 watt head and 2 2x12 cabs. Even that got to be tiresome. I loved the tones I was getting but lets face it, it didn't quite sound as good at 1 watt practice levels as it does at per say....20 to 50 watts. I ended up with the EVH iii 50 watt 2x12 combo. its got a power attenuater that lets you go from 50 to 1 watt and now I dont bother anybody when I practice. I still have plenty of juice for jammin with they guys or a gig. Its also much easier to record with.
I like DSL's not the 15 watter but about every other configuration they make. Bang for the Buck the DSL 40c is almost unbeatable. I almost bought it and if I wanted a club "beater amp" to gig with and keep a real nice expensive head or boutique amp for recording or premo gigs I still am thinking about that 40c but with a speaker swap.
allbutromeo
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Re: Which Marshall?
I hate to be "that guy," but the decibel levels between that 20w half stack vs the 50w is very low. I some sometimes run an 18w head and with the volume turned to 7-8, or loud enough to be heard in a b and with bass a second guitar and loud drummer, it's about the same volume as my 50w JCM900 on 5 or my MkV in 45w mode halfway up
I hate to be "that guy," but the decibel levels between that 20w half stack vs the 50w is very low. I some sometimes run an 18w head and with the volume turned to 7-8, or loud enough to be heard in a b and with bass a second guitar and loud drummer, it's about the same volume as my 50w JCM900 on 5 or my MkV in 45w mode halfway up
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Funkfingers
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Re: Which Marshall?
+1
The Backstar design team was largely ex-Marshall personnel.
Since you name checked EVH, you really oughta check out the current amplifier that bears his name.
+1
The Backstar design team was largely ex-Marshall personnel.
Since you name checked EVH, you really oughta check out the current amplifier that bears his name.
RStabler
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Re: Which Marshall?
My vote goes to any of the Blackstar Series One amps. You'd probably be at home with any of the EL34 versions. They also have variable power that makes it sound great at lower volumes. I use the 200 anywhere from 20 to 100 watts(200 for clean stuff), and it sounds amazing!
My vote goes to any of the Blackstar Series One amps. You'd probably be at home with any of the EL34 versions. They also have variable power that makes it sound great at lower volumes. I use the 200 anywhere from 20 to 100 watts(200 for clean stuff), and it sounds amazing!
Re: Which Marshall?
for a gig marshall that can do it all, i'd go for the DSL 100 or jubilee. 100W is critical to have the clean headroom when you need it. i have all kinds of marshalls and the 50W 1987 will clip at jam/gig volume levels-which is not good if you need some loud clean tones.
the new DSLs are made in vietnam. the jubilee is made in england. some say the DSL has more issues because of that. for speakers, go for the marshall 1960 AV. the vintage speakers in there are specially made for marshall by celestion in england. they are the best, most versatile speaker i've tried.
for a gig marshall that can do it all, i'd go for the DSL 100 or jubilee. 100W is critical to have the clean headroom when you need it. i have all kinds of marshalls and the 50W 1987 will clip at jam/gig volume levels-which is not good if you need some loud clean tones.
the new DSLs are made in vietnam. the jubilee is made in england. some say the DSL has more issues because of that. for speakers, go for the marshall 1960 AV. the vintage speakers in there are specially made for marshall by celestion in england. they are the best, most versatile speaker i've tried.
