Which Stratocaster is better, MIM or MIJ?

bornagainplayer

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I'm looking to buy a standard Stratocaster, but I'd like to know besides the USA model which is best, MIM or MIJ? I've done pickup upgrades myself and a few other minor upgrades on my LP and Squier Strat. I'm looking to get the nicest Strat for the money and then upgrade the pickups if I need to. If I buy a used one, are there any model years for MIM or MIJ that are paricularly good or bad?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
 
Re: Which Stratocaster is better, MIM or MIJ?

Generally, MIJ are known for their quality. But it depends entirely on the model, year, version... etc. Don't forget the Highway 1 stuff!
 
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I do not believe that there is a simple, one-liner answer to this question. Not all instruments originating from one country are innately superior to those from the other.

How important is it to you to have the F word on the headstock? The early Eighties Squier JV Series is highly respected. Levinson Blade guitars are excellent. The G&L Tribute series should fall within budget AND it comes equipped with American pickups to begin with.
 
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Yup, generally the mij and CIJ fenders are really good. There are always some great mim fenders around. The Japanese ones are pretty hard to find. The thing to look at in the mexi strats are the necks. Very hit or miss. At the GC I work at there is a really nice 03 mexi that we use as the Roland ready synth guitar. I use it all the time because it's just a great playing guitar.
 
I do not believe that there is a simple, one-liner answer to this question. Not all instruments originating from one country are innately superior to those from the other.

How important is it to you to have the F word on the headstock? The early Eighties Squier JV Series is highly respected. Levinson Blade guitars are excellent. The G&L Tribute series should fall within budget AND it comes equipped with American pickups to begin with.

Yep, G&L Tribute is the best for the buck.

p.v.m.u.t.
 
Re: Which Stratocaster is better, MIM or MIJ?

Generally speaking, the 80s and 90s MIJ's were top notch, on par with the American instruments.

My MIJ is a fabulous instrument.

But as with any instrument from anywhere, everything is variable. Play it if you can, get a feel for the playability, craftsmanship, natural/unplugged tone etc. if it doesn't impress you, then don't buy it.
 
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The one that speaks to you when you play it - the rest is all just a matter of whether the price represents good value to you.
 
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Save your money, keep playing your squire. When you have a few $ buy the American. They are light years better then MIJ or MIM (just my opinion)
 
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MIJ is comparable to MIA in my experience... I've played lots of Fenders... sometimes MIM were bad, other times they were great, MIJ is pretty consistent... MIA is good sometimes, sometimes bad.

MIJ and MIA are very similar, but Fender Japan is more consistent.
 
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MIM is not bad any more, like it was in the '90's. But MIJ/CIJ ones (all of them) are superior IMHO. I've never played one that was built poorly in any way, shape, or form.

Built cheaply? Yes. Many (if not most) are not made of traditional Fender body woods, and they can be sometimes be made of many pieces, like my '85/'86 Strat, which is not only joined side to side, but also top to bottom – a sandwich-style body. Of my three MIJ/CIJ Fenders, not one of them is made of alder or ash. It is stuff like basswood, sen, poplar, etc.

Electronics leaving something to be desired? Yes. Out of two MIJ Strats and one Tele, all but two of the pickups were either replaced or are in the queue for replacement. That's a 25 percent "keeper" rate.

But they are not built poorly, i.e. with poor craftsmanship or poor inspection. OTOH, as much as I think the MIM instruments are good, I have certainly seen a decent amount of poor quality workmanship and inspection work on them. The parts are even worse than the MIJ parts (hardware, frets, electronics), and the workmanship is simply not a match for that performed on the MIJ guitars, which is at least equal to the USA workmanship. My MIM Strat's body is perfect. They did a great job on the paint (though it is thick as hell). But the neck is Squier quality at best, and it is even worse than some Squiers I've played. Sloppy fretwork, sloppy shaping (drum sander depression near the nut, passed through by the builder, the finisher, and the inspector), and sloppy finish/polish work. Looks like the face of the head was polished with 400-grit sandpaper instead of a buffing compound.

IMO, it is not that Mexican people are any worse at fine detailed work then Japanese people. It is just something that comes from the top down IMO. The MIJ guitars are made with different corporate priorities than the MIM guitars. With budget guitars, something has to give somewhere. With the MIJ guitars, it is the electronics and the raw materials used for the bodies that allow them to keep prices down. With the MIM guitars, it is the hardware, the electronics, and the level of workmanship.

Both can be made into incredible instruments; the MIMs will just need a bit more help to get there, especially in the areas of fretwork and hardware. That said, despite the flaws in my MIM Strat (original owner since 2005), it is still stock aside from my piping of the bridge pickup through the middle pickup's tone pot. It is in line for pickups (and I suppose it always has been), but I've never actually gone through with a swap, as many times as I've considered it. Those pickups have something about them that keeps telling me to let them be, despite their major shortcomings at high volumes.
 
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There are too many variables...

In short and IMHO...Id take ANY MIJ over a MIM Standard Strat however with the prices of most MIJ stuff these days being far more than the guitars are really worth the MIM Classic series looks better and better every day! I really like the MIM Classic 50's and 60's Esquires and Telecaster as well as the 50's, 60's and 70' Strats...great guitars and with a few tweaks (pickups, set up, etc) they can be pro level guitars and then some!
 
Re: Which Stratocaster is better, MIM or MIJ?

MIJ is comparable to MIA in my experience... I've played lots of Fenders... sometimes MIM were bad, other times they were great, MIJ is pretty consistent... MIA is good sometimes, sometimes bad.

MIJ and MIA are very similar, but Fender Japan is more consistent.

I'm not sure why anyone would think this. Both countries use the same CNC and paint-booth technology. If anything,the Corona, Calif. facility is more modern than the Yamano/Kando Shokai facilities.

The MIJs *might* have been more 'consistent' in the early 1980s when the distribution deal was first stuck and US production was first moving to Corona. Hell, back then Fender's new ownership had a banking partner, and that was it.

The only difference in consistency today would be how often FMIC changes (or "updates") its American Standard specs. But the US-made quality has been solid at least since the mid-1980s.

I've played countless examples of both MIJ and MIA. I might like one model's features more than another's, but I've never seen how one country of origin is more 'consistent' than another.

To the OP: Unless you're dead-set against American-made, I'd save a few more dollars and get an American model.
 
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I don't like the "Standard" labeled ones much, neither MIM nor MIA.

The MIM labeled 50ties or 60ties or 70ties are very good, as are MIJ 57 and 62 reissues. But MIJ Fender and Squire can be all over the place with woods and hardware used.

I'm not offhand sure whether they carry a standard spacing 6-point trem that is interchangable with a MIA 62 or Callaham trem, I would not buy a Strat that doesn't.
 
Re: Which Stratocaster is better, MIM or MIJ?

I'm not sure why anyone would think this. Both countries use the same CNC and paint-booth technology. If anything,the Corona, Calif. facility is more modern than the Yamano/Kando Shokai facilities.

The MIJs *might* have been more 'consistent' in the early 1980s when the distribution deal was first stuck and US production was first moving to Corona. Hell, back then Fender's new ownership had a banking partner, and that was it.

The only difference in consistency today would be how often FMIC changes (or "updates") its American Standard specs. But the US-made quality has been solid at least since the mid-1980s.

I've played countless examples of both MIJ and MIA. I might like one model's features more than another's, but I've never seen how one country of origin is more 'consistent' than another.

To the OP: Unless you're dead-set against American-made, I'd save a few more dollars and get an American model.

I have owned many MIJ Fender guitars. I have played many MIA guitars. MIA Fenders are solid guitars, no doubt, but there's something about a MIJ that's different, much different. it's amazing because they look the same but they are not the same at all.. and both are great.

I have played countless american fenders at stores all over the states.

I have played countless MIJ guitars too, it seems most of the time the MIAs have no character while the MIJs are always interesting.. and thats while testing them blind, without knowing the country of origin. I think it's fair to say quality is on par.
 
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Best value for the money right now: Classic player strats MIM, custom shop designed specs including a nice 2 point tremolo and good pickups offered at a reasonable price.
What more could you ask for?
 
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I have played countless MIJ guitars too, it seems most of the time the MIAs have no character while the MIJs are always interesting.. and thats while testing them blind, without knowing the country of origin. I think it's fair to say quality is on par.

Well, that's because MIJ's have that special "character" spec that the soulless American examples have always lacked. /sarcasm.

The only difference between the two are, perhaps, woods and the people who program the CNCs. Japanese examples might be more prone to have basswood, for example. There's nothing wrong with basswood. And because so many are being purchased in the U.S. market second-hand, the prices can be lower. Plenty of people like lower prices, and more power to them.

The Yamano/Kando Shokai instruments are fine. I've never played one I didn't like, and I played one of the first MIJ 1950s reissues. I thought they were amazing. But after, say, 1987, the American models have been just as "consistent" as those made anywhere else in the world with a Haas (or any other kind of) CNC.

Same machines, and very likely, same CAD/CAM software.
 
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