Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
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MkIII Renegade
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
I would say most likely NOT if your Jackson originally came with the recessed Licensed Schaller Floyd with cavity behind.
The Original Floyds have very long screws protruding behind, probably twice as long as the Schaller version. I have been researching this subject myself for a San Dimas Charvel I picked up recently with a corroded Schaller Floyd, which I will replace. The newer Original Floyd Pro has the screws on top of the trem body rather than protruding behind, so it should fit. I think that will be my answer. Or if I go cheapskate, I may only replace the saddles on the Schaller.
I would say most likely NOT if your Jackson originally came with the recessed Licensed Schaller Floyd with cavity behind.
The Original Floyds have very long screws protruding behind, probably twice as long as the Schaller version. I have been researching this subject myself for a San Dimas Charvel I picked up recently with a corroded Schaller Floyd, which I will replace. The newer Original Floyd Pro has the screws on top of the trem body rather than protruding behind, so it should fit. I think that will be my answer. Or if I go cheapskate, I may only replace the saddles on the Schaller.
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Gone_Shootin
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
It might work, or it might not. The trem it's self will fit but some of Jackson's liscensed Floyds have saddles with different dimensions because they put the studs in a different spot. And if your Dinky body is one of the Jacksons with the different stud location, the intonation will be off with a regular Floyd.
It might work, or it might not. The trem it's self will fit but some of Jackson's liscensed Floyds have saddles with different dimensions because they put the studs in a different spot. And if your Dinky body is one of the Jacksons with the different stud location, the intonation will be off with a regular Floyd.
vinta9e
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
An OFR should fit a JT580LP rout.
An OFR should fit a JT580LP rout.
MkIII Renegade
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
I'd make some measurements from the stud mounting locations before making any purchases. Hopefully a local guitar shop has a Floyd they will let you compare (as long as you act like you're going to buy it from them!
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I'd make some measurements from the stud mounting locations before making any purchases. Hopefully a local guitar shop has a Floyd they will let you compare (as long as you act like you're going to buy it from them!
).
DrNewcenstein
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
Only the old JT6 had a different stud spacing from OFR. If it's a DK body, it most likely did not have a JT6.
A link to the specific body would help, but if it's India-made, it will take an OFR. The older 90s Japan-made models with the Schaller-style short-barrel trems are the only ones that cannot take an OFR. Even then, it's an import, and parted out, so routing the rear of the recess is no great loss.
Only the old JT6 had a different stud spacing from OFR. If it's a DK body, it most likely did not have a JT6.
A link to the specific body would help, but if it's India-made, it will take an OFR. The older 90s Japan-made models with the Schaller-style short-barrel trems are the only ones that cannot take an OFR. Even then, it's an import, and parted out, so routing the rear of the recess is no great loss.
King IzzO)))
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
Yep, if it was original JT580LP the FR will fit. It might just barely rub on the arm side, just sand a little on that side and it will be fine. If it's one of the Indian made versions I think they already came with FRS trems anyway, so you're good either way.
Yep, if it was original JT580LP the FR will fit. It might just barely rub on the arm side, just sand a little on that side and it will be fine. If it's one of the Indian made versions I think they already came with FRS trems anyway, so you're good either way.
vinta9e
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
True. I'd just get a Schaller as a replacement for any short barrel floyd and save myself the trouble of routing or potential intonation issues.
True. I'd just get a Schaller as a replacement for any short barrel floyd and save myself the trouble of routing or potential intonation issues.
dotsdad
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
Now we're getting somewhere! Any idea which Dinky submodels came stock with the JT580LP?
Now we're getting somewhere! Any idea which Dinky submodels came stock with the JT580LP?
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
This is one of the discontinued Pro series Soloists (SL3), that used to have a JT580LP.
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This is one of the discontinued Pro series Soloists (SL3), that used to have a JT580LP.
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DrNewcenstein
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
The DK2 with H-S-S that was introduced back in 2003 (with the HRF and BOF finishes) will take an OFR, as well as any Floyded Dinky made since then.
Starting in 1993, some models used the Takeuchi JT580, which can be swapped for an OFR, however, some models also used the Schaller JT590, which cannot.
The 1994 catalog shows only (or mostly) the JT590 (Schaller) across the entire model range.
The 1996 catalog shows the JT580 in use on all Floyded imports, while all USA models got the OFR.
While the JT580LP is a different model from the JT580 (the LP meaning Low Profile, which just means the string lock screws on the saddles are in front of the fine tuners, rather than out the back), the curved "arms" that come from the back of the saddles require the same route depth and length as an OFR.
The DK2 with H-S-S that was introduced back in 2003 (with the HRF and BOF finishes) will take an OFR, as well as any Floyded Dinky made since then.
Starting in 1993, some models used the Takeuchi JT580, which can be swapped for an OFR, however, some models also used the Schaller JT590, which cannot.
The 1994 catalog shows only (or mostly) the JT590 (Schaller) across the entire model range.
The 1996 catalog shows the JT580 in use on all Floyded imports, while all USA models got the OFR.
While the JT580LP is a different model from the JT580 (the LP meaning Low Profile, which just means the string lock screws on the saddles are in front of the fine tuners, rather than out the back), the curved "arms" that come from the back of the saddles require the same route depth and length as an OFR.
King IzzO)))
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
http://audiozone.dk/index-filer/TremoloInfoProject.htm
Also, Gotoh fits if you swap the lock bolts with the shorter OFR parts. Edge fits with a little widening of the tail section and a swap to the OFR bolts.
I started to do the full Edge swap on my Kelly, but the larger and deeper post anchors make me too nervous. The Jackson spring cavity is cut at an angle from the back side away from the trem, I just don't think there's enough meat there, and I already had to fix a Dinky body that had cracked in this area just with the stock anchors. I've decided to just go with the Gotoh using PFR anchors, which are actually 0.5 mm larger and slightly shorter than stock, I think not going as deep should keep them from cracking into the cavity like the Dinky did.
I doweled the Dinky with 1/2" dowel and redrilled using OFR parts there too. Should be good. I'll post pics of this **** eventually.
http://audiozone.dk/index-filer/TremoloInfoProject.htm
Also, Gotoh fits if you swap the lock bolts with the shorter OFR parts. Edge fits with a little widening of the tail section and a swap to the OFR bolts.
I started to do the full Edge swap on my Kelly, but the larger and deeper post anchors make me too nervous. The Jackson spring cavity is cut at an angle from the back side away from the trem, I just don't think there's enough meat there, and I already had to fix a Dinky body that had cracked in this area just with the stock anchors. I've decided to just go with the Gotoh using PFR anchors, which are actually 0.5 mm larger and slightly shorter than stock, I think not going as deep should keep them from cracking into the cavity like the Dinky did.
I doweled the Dinky with 1/2" dowel and redrilled using OFR parts there too. Should be good. I'll post pics of this **** eventually.
rnitto
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
I have a '90's Dinky Reverse and I just installed Schaller everything. It definitely fits, but as the above pic shows, there is some more empty space on one side. I also had to drill out the dowel hoses to fit the larger Schaller mounting posts.
Question regarding the Locking Nut (this should help the OP too)
I bought the wrong locking nut from Schaller as my guitar came with a 580LP trem, I figured it was the R3. It "is" the R3 spacing but the Schaller Germany R3 nut is too high at ~10.2mm - Does anyone know if the Fender Special Nut (R10) will be low enough at 9mm? This is the lowest one they have.
Fender Special R10 Locking Nut
http://guitar-parts.biz/hp319408/R10-13120610.htm?ITServ=C5be39e5dX1451d7991bdXY4c17
I have a '90's Dinky Reverse and I just installed Schaller everything. It definitely fits, but as the above pic shows, there is some more empty space on one side. I also had to drill out the dowel hoses to fit the larger Schaller mounting posts.
Question regarding the Locking Nut (this should help the OP too)
I bought the wrong locking nut from Schaller as my guitar came with a 580LP trem, I figured it was the R3. It "is" the R3 spacing but the Schaller Germany R3 nut is too high at ~10.2mm - Does anyone know if the Fender Special Nut (R10) will be low enough at 9mm? This is the lowest one they have.
Fender Special R10 Locking Nut
http://guitar-parts.biz/hp319408/R10-13120610.htm?ITServ=C5be39e5dX1451d7991bdXY4c17
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
My Charvel Model 3 arrived with a broken JT6 baseplate. (This was known beforehand and a price adjustment made.) After reading the Jackson Tremolo Information Page mentioned in post #14, I realised that the only practical solution was to buy a second JT6 and turn the best parts of two knackered examples into one working version.
My Charvel Model 3 arrived with a broken JT6 baseplate. (This was known beforehand and a price adjustment made.) After reading the Jackson Tremolo Information Page mentioned in post #14, I realised that the only practical solution was to buy a second JT6 and turn the best parts of two knackered examples into one working version.
Gone_Shootin
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Re: Will a genuine Floyd Rose brand tremolo in a Jackson body?
Yep, just enough that you run out if room for intonation on some strings. Which is why my Japanese Dinkys are pretty much stuck with that they came with. Why did Jackson have to put their studs closer to the neck?.......
Yep, just enough that you run out if room for intonation on some strings. Which is why my Japanese Dinkys are pretty much stuck with that they came with. Why did Jackson have to put their studs closer to the neck?.......
