Wiring advice-2 hums 5 way switch?

[stm113]

Hey all, I am hoping someone here can help me figure out this wiring.

I have an Ibanez SCA 220 that I am looking to do a specific wiring. The neck will be the stock Ibanez pup (it sounds fine enough for me) and the bridge will be SD Distortion, which is replacing a Tone Zone that’s been in there for 12 or so years.

The current wiring with the 5 way switch is

1-full Bridge
2-single coil of bridge & neck
3-neck & Bridge full
4-same as 2 either inner or outer coils
5-full neck.

This is a cool wiring scheme but I want a little different. I would like to do this:

1-full Bridge
2-single coil Bridge
3-single from Bridge & neck closest sound to position 2 on a strat
4-single coil Bridge
5-full neck.

While the original wiring is cool, it lacks access to just single coil tones for me.

I don’t want to use a push/pull pot if I don’t have to, Will this require a “super switch”? I don’t even know what that is but seems like someone has said that.

If anyone can help me get this figured out I would be super appreciative!

Thanks all!!!

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Hi stm113,

Yes, some type of superswitch will be required but the good news is that the current switch must be a superswitch to be yielding those current pickup combinations. Can you open up the control cavity, take some pics and post them back here so we can try to determine what model of superswitch is in there? The model of switch will determine how the diagram needs to be drawn.

Also, please take and post back some pics of the Neck pickups wire colors and where they currently connect on that switch.

With that info, I can make a diagram of what you want - probably based on some mods to this Seymour Duncan wiring diagram (see attached).

 

[GuitarDoc]

You want positions 2 and 4 to be redundant?

If you have a Strat type super switch, might I suggest mincer's "do-it-all" wiring.

 

[Mincer]

Another option is just a standard 3 way switch, with a master coil split switch (I use an S1 switch).

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

You want positions 2 and 4 to be redundant?

If you have a Strat type super switch, might I suggest mincer's "do-it-all" wiring.

I going with the assumption that he made a typo for Position 4, and really meant to to write that he wants the Neck humbucker coilsplit.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

You want positions 2 and 4 to be redundant?

If you have a Strat type super switch, might I suggest mincer's "do-it-all" wiring.

The OP said he wants two of the positions to have standalone coilsplits. Mincer's wiring scheme only provides two coilsplit pickups combined in parallel.

Mincer's also requires the magnet to be flipped in one pickup. Its easier to wire one of the humbuckers differently than do the flip.

 

[Mincer]

My scheme wants to keep everything hum-cancelling, while having those specific coils on in those specific positions.

 

[Top-L]

Another option is just a standard 3 way switch, with a master coil split switch (I use an S1 switch).

This is the best setup imo.

 

[Mincer]

This is the best setup imo.

This is becoming my favorite, too.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

My scheme wants to keep everything hum-cancelling, while having those specific coils on in those specific positions.

That's already understood about your scheme. My point was that the OP specifically said he wants standalone coilsplits in Positions 2 and 4.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Yeah, my post was about positions 2 and 4 both being split bridge. (= redundant).

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Yeah, my post was about positions 2 and 4 both being split bridge. (= redundant).

I addressed that in Reply #5.

 

[GuitarDoc]

I addressed that in Reply #5.

Yes, you did!

But in post #6 you replied to my same post again, but you addressed something totally different. And actually, if you want to be accurate, the OP DIDN'T say he wants "standalone coilsplits". And you ASSUMED he meant neck split in position 4. I, on the other hand, was not even making a statement, I was asking for clarification from the OP , not for your assumption (I am perfectly capable of making that logical assumption all by my own little self) about positions 2 and 4. I wanted the OP to respond so I would know exactly what he wanted, without making any assumptions or putting words in his mouth, so I could give him some useful assistance.

You have a double standard...you expect precision in others' replies, but you allow yourself to make assumptions (and I admit that this particular one was a reasonable assumption to make, but an "assumption" none the less) and even errors, and make all kinds of excuses for yourself. In fact, you were even making an incorrect assumption about what I was asking in post 3.

I don't have anything personally against you. And I, like many others, appreciate all of the good advice and help that you offer to this forum. You have shared over 14 hundred posts with the forum...I have also shared over 14 thousand. Point is...we are both trying to help. I'm just asking you to be consistent in your expectations from others and yourself, and for a little respect when I get home. You are not the only authority on this forum.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Hey GuitarDoc,

My apologies - I see your point about making assumptions, and it's a good one. Your last reply didn't read to me like you were addressing the OP, but I should have asked instead of assumed.

You are one of the members whose posts helped me in understand guitar wiring wizardry. I'm very appreciative of your input. I will work to improve on my assumption making.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Apology accepted. Keep up the good work.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Thanks GuitarDoc. You, too.

 

[stm113]

Hey all... sorry I posted then life went crazy. I got back in here and read the comments. 1- thank you all for trying to help. 2- I apologize for not being clear (it made sense to me lol) 3- sorry for causing any kind of strife.

someone suggested I take a pic of the existing switch and I have. This pic may be a WTF moment for many so let me give some background. I love the way these guitars play but they are just a bit too light, so I got the bright idea to use wheel balance weights which have actually worked well.

So here’s the pic. And I guess I wasn’t as clear with my question so ultimately what I am trying to achieve is this

• Full Humbucker Bridge
• Single coil Bridge
single coil bridge + single coil neck to sound as close to the
bridge + mid on a strat as possible
•Single coil neck
•Full Humbucker neck.

if anyone have questions or advice it’s greatly appreciated!

 

[Zheddar]

What is Mincer's "Do-it-all" wiring? I swear I remember reading it in an article or something. Anyone have the link or a schematic? Thanks!

 

[Artie]

Look at my post #3, in this thread: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/filedata/fetch?id=6009507&d=1597410197

While that doesn't give you the sequence you want, it WILL give you all those combinations while also replacing the one redundant one with the N/B full sound. And, you can do it with the switch you already have. If you definitely want that specific sequence and combinations, then you will need a Superswitch.

 

[Mincer]

What is Mincer's "Do-it-all" wiring? I swear I remember reading it in an article or something. Anyone have the link or a schematic? Thanks!

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