Wiring conundrum...calling artietoo...:-)

[krankguitarist]

Ok, so I've got a friend who approached me with an idea...basically JP-style wiring (series/split/parallel/out of phase) only with the added feature of being able to individually choose either the north or the south coil while splitting on each of the pickups.

Would be done in an ibanez iceman guitar...one volume/one tone...with as few additional holes to the guitar as possible. I was thinkin a few mini-toggles might get the job done...along with a replacing the pots with push-pull pots...but...the whole thing's a little hard to process.

anywho...so...any ideas?

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring conundrum...calling artietoo...

Hey KG; Let me give you the quick & dirty answer now, and then I'll expand on it a bit later. The easy way to do this would be to add two SPDT switches to the splitting push/pull pots so that you can select which coil gets split. That would, however, require adding two switches to the guitar. I believe, that there's a better way to do this, but it requires that I bring my Jimmy Page wiring diagram up to date. I've been meaning to this for awhile - so I'm doing it right now.

I'll elaborate on this once I get it done. Should be a little later today.

Artie

 

[krankguitarist]

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Two holes shouldn't be all too much of a problem. I think he's just lookin for the most efficent way of doin this kinda setup.

 

[Artie]

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I just noticed that you said 1 vol, and 1 tone. That means we won't use the JP wiring per se, but that might make it easier. If you add two switches, and make them both on-on-on switches, we can cover series-split-parallel with those. That leaves us the the pots for push/pull's that can be used for phase and what-not.

I think we might be able to do phase with one, and coil select with the other. (Remember, its only necessary to reverse the phase of one pup.)

Let me doodle a couple things up tomorrow, and I'll post back in the evening.

Artie

 

[sonnyblu]

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Help... ArtieToo!!! Do you have any other PRS McCarty wiring diagrams other than the one I find at www.guitarelectronics.com I'm looking for the original... or even a pic of someones PRS control cavity. Thanks a million...

 

[Artie]

Re: Wiring conundrum...calling artietoo...

Help... ArtieToo!!! Do you have any other PRS McCarty wiring diagrams other than the one I find at www.guitarelectronics.com I'm looking for the original... or even a pic of someones PRS control cavity. Thanks a million...

Sorry. I don't have any diagrams per se, except the ones I draw. I have no experience with PRS at all. But I believe there's a couple folks here who do. You might want to create a new thread with that question. I think Robert is good at the PRS stuff.

 

[Al Heeley]

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This from PRS website:

 

[dark_knight]

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Hi. This is the guy whose guitar it is. What about using a dual level rotary switch for the phase/series/parallel and the 3 way or maybe some othe kind o switch for pick up selection?

 

[Lewguitar]

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My advice is: DON'T.

To complicated, to many switches and truthfully, I don't think it'd sound that good.

Keep it simple.

Most of the guitars I've played with fancy wiring to get out of phase tones, etc. just had alot of extra tones that weren't really very desireable or useable.

It's the kind of think we all do in the beginning and then learn that we don't really care for the results.

Lew

 

[Al Heeley]

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Lew talks good sense, though I'm very happy to have replaced my very user-unfriendly PRS 5-way rotary on the Cu24 with a McCarty wiring as above, push-pull tone pot and 6 good, useable and easy to access tones. I hated that 5-way rotary, never knew whick set of pups were selected when gigging, or which way to twist it.

 

[dark_knight]

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Whats wrong with a rotary switch? Isnt it better than 4 push pull pots?

 

[sonnyblu]

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What I have is a Ibanez SZ520, I really love it and the tones that it gets. But... I really need a master volume control in all postions. You have no way to control your volume once you get the tone you want. With the McCarty wiring you always have a master volume control and also complete independent coil splits. It would be a trade off between having the master volume or having the mix option as I have now. Thank you for the discussion.

 

[sonnyblu]

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I invested in a RS guitar works pre-wired McCarty harness... once my gigs are over this week I will get a chance to install it. The wiring is completely differant from the guitarelectronis.com diagram. I believe it is the original PRS McCarty wiring... but who would know!! ha! They sent a very detailed diagram... thank god. Very nice... I need all the help I can get.

 

[Al Heeley]

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Whats wrong with a rotary switch? Isnt it better than 4 push pull pots?

I never got on with the 5-way rotary, I never knew where I was.
The McCarty is so much simpler, I get 6 tones as opposed to the old 5.
There's only one push-pull pot, the tone pot for coil split..
There's the 3 way toggle for neck/both/bridge
There's the vol pot.
Thats it. Easy and effective.

4 push-pull pots would be a nightmare, why would anyone put that many on?

 

[sonnyblu]

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My pre-wired McCarty harness is working great... but now I want to add a blend control somehow... This is my new quest. I use the single coil settings so much... I need a little more control. Also may try my PG's in this format... I keep reading that the PG's sound real good split.