Wiring Diagram Suggestion

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aerial7

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I have 3 Seymour Duncan humbuckers, a 5-way superswitch, and two push-pull volume pots in a Strat. (There's actually a 3rd pot that is the volume for my piezo bridge.) Any ideas how to wire this up in ways that are proven to be useful? I'm not interested in splits (i.e,. the usual bridge + neck) -- I'm more interested in Les Paul-style pairs of humbuckers. I also don't wanna spend forever wiring this thing up, so keep it simple, please?

Otherwise, I'll just use my superswitch as a 3-way selector for each pickup individually, and one of the push-pulls to toggle between magnetics / piezo. Boring, yes, but very simple!
 
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what piezo do you use ? do u use 1 stereo jack for both piezo and mag pups or 2 mono jack ?. if u still wanna use 5 way superswitch u gotta make it 5 way. Use 3 way switch if you dont want the combined pickups.

man, this is the worst drawing i ever done..:D

try this,..assuming u use 1 stereo jack. With the push pull pot up, activates piezo only, down activates mag pups only. You cannot use mag and piezo together with this setup. Connect the bridge ground to the back of volume pot.


Use on-off-on mini switch if u want both piezo and mag together. you can replace the tone pot if u like.

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Nice drawing. You can make it a teensy bit easier by placing the bridge connection on the same quadrant with the neck since they use separate lugs. Not a big deal though. Nice work.
 
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Piezo is the LR Baggs....just dropped it in recently and I really like it. I installed their stereo jack, but I'm not using it -- the push-pull toggle fits my needs better.

1st thing I noticed is this gives me a tone control -- I hate 'em, since I'd rather control my "tone" entirely from my GT-Pro guitar processor. Any ideas involving 2 volumes? I'm guessing not, since there are 3 pups.... What if I just left the middle full on, without a volume pot?

Thanks so much for the diagram -- I think I could've eventually figured that out on my own, but I would've doubted it could be so simple! Only thing is positions 2 & 4 are fairly conventional pairings; would it be more useful to make one of those be neck & bridge?

I'd appreciate any advise; I'm looking for utility, not to come up with the most clever -- and difficult -- wiring.....Thanks!
 
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I just noticed a mistake on that drawing: pulling the volume pot push-pull will kill the output. The middle lug of the switch needs to go to the output jack tip rather than ground.

Getting bridge and neck is fairly easy. On that diagram, don't connect the middle pickup to the middle lug. (Where it has three lugs in a row.) Only connect lugs #2 and #4. Then extend both the neck and bridge wires one more lug over. That will give you neck and bridge in the middle indstead of middle only.

I can add a diagram tomorrow, to make it easier to see what I mean.
 
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Artie,

Thanks -- I don't think I need a new diagram, at least not for the switch. And I've already got the push-pull working, so don't worry about that.

At this point, I think I just need suggestions on how I could get 2 vols instead of vol+tone. Is there any way I could have a volume controlling 2 of the pups, and if so, is that useful and not stupid?
 
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aerial7 said:
At this point, I think I just need suggestions on how I could get 2 vols instead of vol+tone. Is there any way I could have a volume controlling 2 of the pups, and if so, is that useful and not stupid?
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Not stupid at all. What you could do is use a standard 3-way to control the neck and bridge, then use the other pot as a "blend" control to bring in the middle pup at any time. Then again, that may deviate too far from what you originally want.

However, virtually anything is possible with the switches you have. ;)
 
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Interesting....So far, I've got a push-pull pot unaccounted for: is there anyway to go with your 3-way idea (N, N+B, B) with 1 vol for neck, 1 vol for bridge, but pulling up that pot basically selects ONLY the middle, and the pot then acts as a volume for the middle? And if I want LP-style separate volumes, I would just put them between the individual pups and the switch?
 
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There's a couple different ways to approach this. You could do just as you say by taking the output of the 3-way to one side of the push-pull and the middle pup to the other side. Another way, which might be interesting, would be to use the push-pull to select between the neck and middle before the 3-way. That way, you could select between bridge & neck, or bridge & middle.

Either way is about the same difficulty. (Not much.)
 
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ArtieToo said:
I just noticed a mistake on that drawing: pulling the volume pot push-pull will kill the output. The middle lug of the switch needs to go to the output jack tip rather than ground.
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yeah it will kill the output, so that when pulling the vol pot, he mutes the mag and use the piezo. but nevermind,..your idea works too. Thanks
 
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aerial7 said:
Piezo is the LR Baggs....just dropped it in recently and I really like it. I installed their stereo jack, but I'm not using it -- the push-pull toggle fits my needs better.

1st thing I noticed is this gives me a tone control -- I hate 'em, since I'd rather control my "tone" entirely from my GT-Pro guitar processor. Any ideas involving 2 volumes? I'm guessing not, since there are 3 pups.... What if I just left the middle full on, without a volume pot?
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i dont know how the LRBaggs system works, specially enganging the preamp, when a mono guitar cable plugged. so im guessing you're using one mono jack for to system, rite ? you could use what Artie said, connect the middle lug of push pull to tip jack. but if you're using one mono cable for different system ( piezo and mag ) i dont think it would be great idea, since piezo is not really good on guitar amp. Normally u could use one stereo jack, with Y cable. So there's separate output, one goes to your GT pro, and the piezo goes to Acoustic amp or mixer. or you could two mono output jack if you think Y cable is not so versatile.

The rest, with a3 way switch and blend middle pickup, Artie's idea is great.

FYI , i use Graph tech piezo system. But i use 2 mono jack for

independent output with a 3 way mini switch that allows me to choose mag pups only, piezo only, and blend.

here's my system drawing. quite complicated. just a sharing.

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I want to respond to some of the other posts later; after thinking about it more, here's what I THINK I want:

1: neck
2: neck + bridge
3: mid
4: mid + bridge
5: bridge

Notice that the neck & mid are never active at the same time, which I hope means I can have the first pot be Bridge volume, and the second pot be Neck OR Middle volume (whichever is active). First push-pull would be unassigned, second push-pull would be mags / piezo toggle.

First, is this a generally useful configuration, and can I get that second pot as I want?

Second, I can see how to wire the switch and everything else EXCEPT how to wire the second pot to get the desired control. Is it as simple as putting the neck and middle on their own "quadrant" of the superswitch, and tieing both of those quadrants' outputs to the input of the second pot?

Thanks in advance...
 
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Benye said:
yeah it will kill the output, so that when pulling the vol pot, he mutes the mag and use the piezo. but nevermind,..your idea works too. Thanks
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Ooops . . . my bad. I just now noticed that you're using a stereo output jack. I plead senility and lack of beer. :D
 
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