wiring help.
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Re: wiring help.
Id try Artie Too or Lew Guitar.
Id try Artie Too or Lew Guitar.
tone4days
Heel Whacker
Re: wiring help.
what wiring help do you need? ... tell us which pups you are using ... which pickup switch you are using .. which pots you are using ... any extra switches you are using ...
there are several of us on here who can help ... also, from the SD homepage (support --> schematics) you can find a great number of schematics that you can mix-n-match if you dont find your exact setup
good luck
t4d
what wiring help do you need? ... tell us which pups you are using ... which pickup switch you are using .. which pots you are using ... any extra switches you are using ...
there are several of us on here who can help ... also, from the SD homepage (support --> schematics) you can find a great number of schematics that you can mix-n-match if you dont find your exact setup
good luck
t4d
dani
Active member
Re: wiring help.
thanks for the reply!
i pm'ed artie and he got me to post them here. afaik, no one replied yet.
ok. here's the lowdown.
cij thinline tele special with one volume and one tone.
pickups: hot for tele tapped in the bridge, vintage rhythm for tele in the middle, jazz neck.
here is what i have in mind.
1. standard strat wiring: bridge, bridge/middle, middle, middle/neck, neck and to be able to switch on either bridge or neck pup for bridge/neck ala tele in both normal and tapped/split mode.
3. to be able to tap the bridge pup and split the jazz.
4. to be able to select the coils of the jazz when split so that it will be hum-cancelling with the bridge and middle pup. i assume that if the slug coil is needed for the bridge pup in the bridge/neck position to be hum-cancelling, i should therefore be able to select the screw coil with the middle pup so that it is hum-cancelling.
all in-between positions are in parallel. i am prepared to use push/pull pots and a super switch if necessary. i am not sure if this is possible though and i hope i am clear enough in explaining.
thanks as always!
dani
thanks for the reply!
i pm'ed artie and he got me to post them here. afaik, no one replied yet.
ok. here's the lowdown.
cij thinline tele special with one volume and one tone.
pickups: hot for tele tapped in the bridge, vintage rhythm for tele in the middle, jazz neck.
here is what i have in mind.
1. standard strat wiring: bridge, bridge/middle, middle, middle/neck, neck and to be able to switch on either bridge or neck pup for bridge/neck ala tele in both normal and tapped/split mode.
3. to be able to tap the bridge pup and split the jazz.
4. to be able to select the coils of the jazz when split so that it will be hum-cancelling with the bridge and middle pup. i assume that if the slug coil is needed for the bridge pup in the bridge/neck position to be hum-cancelling, i should therefore be able to select the screw coil with the middle pup so that it is hum-cancelling.
all in-between positions are in parallel. i am prepared to use push/pull pots and a super switch if necessary. i am not sure if this is possible though and i hope i am clear enough in explaining.
thanks as always!
dani
Re: wiring help.
to tap the bridge/split the jazz youll need a push/pull pot
to select the coil of the jazz youll need a phase switch
since you only need half a dpdt switch to split and half to tap you could do all this with your two pots. if you used one push/pull for tapping and spliting (not sure if youll want to do that or not) and one for the phase switch on the jazz you could make it work
strat wiring
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/S_3singles1vol1tone1switch.html
tap
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/tapped_strat.html
phase with split
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/phase_switch_coil_split_hb.html
combine those three and youre golden, assuming that you dont mind splitting and tapping at the same time. if you want independant control youll need to put a mini switch in
to tap the bridge/split the jazz youll need a push/pull pot
to select the coil of the jazz youll need a phase switch
since you only need half a dpdt switch to split and half to tap you could do all this with your two pots. if you used one push/pull for tapping and spliting (not sure if youll want to do that or not) and one for the phase switch on the jazz you could make it work
strat wiring
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/S_3singles1vol1tone1switch.html
tap
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/tapped_strat.html
phase with split
http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/phase_switch_coil_split_hb.html
combine those three and youre golden, assuming that you dont mind splitting and tapping at the same time. if you want independant control youll need to put a mini switch in
tone4days
Heel Whacker
Re: wiring help.
hmm ... are you prepared to add an additional mini-toggle switch if needed? ... i can see potentially needing one that is "on-off-on" in order to allow you to get the "stud coil-both coils-screw coil" selection from the Neck position Jazz as you described ...
you could use one push/pull pot to tap the bridge position and the other push/pull pot to have the 'add bridge pup any time' thing (in order to get neck + bridge or "all three") ...
i don't think you'll need a superswitch
t4d
hmm ... are you prepared to add an additional mini-toggle switch if needed? ... i can see potentially needing one that is "on-off-on" in order to allow you to get the "stud coil-both coils-screw coil" selection from the Neck position Jazz as you described ...
you could use one push/pull pot to tap the bridge position and the other push/pull pot to have the 'add bridge pup any time' thing (in order to get neck + bridge or "all three") ...
i don't think you'll need a superswitch
t4d
dani
Active member
Re: wiring help.
thanks bros! you all have been very helpful!
btw, is there anything i can do besides adding the mini switch? i would like to keep the guitar looking as stock as possible.
imo, i find the mini switch a tad to troublesome. i was thinking a superswitch may be able to automatically select either split coil in correspond with the bridge or middle pickup.
thanks as always!
dani
thanks bros! you all have been very helpful!
btw, is there anything i can do besides adding the mini switch? i would like to keep the guitar looking as stock as possible.
imo, i find the mini switch a tad to troublesome. i was thinking a superswitch may be able to automatically select either split coil in correspond with the bridge or middle pickup.
thanks as always!
dani
tone4days
Heel Whacker
Re: wiring help.
hmmm, don't think so ... at least it isnt coming to mind easily ... i can see how you'd do it with the jazz (split) and the middle in position 2 ... but i cant see how you would be able to have the superswitch split the jazz for combination with the bridge
greater minds than mine exist .. .stay tuned
t4d
hmmm, don't think so ... at least it isnt coming to mind easily ... i can see how you'd do it with the jazz (split) and the middle in position 2 ... but i cant see how you would be able to have the superswitch split the jazz for combination with the bridge
greater minds than mine exist .. .stay tuned
t4d
Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: wiring help.
Ok, here's rough draft #1:
I'm pretty sure this does it, but it may have a couple "bugs". Maybe not.
The half of the 5-way that's in blue is just normal Strat wiring.
The tone push/pull taps the bridge anytime the bridge is selected.
Again, using #1 to denote the "neck" position - when you select the #2 notch position, you'll have the middle and the Jazz stud coil.
You can pull the volume push/pull pot at any time to give you the Jazz adjustable coil. And that means literally, any time.
So, you can have the bridge, (in position #5, tapped or not), with the Jazz adjustable coil. You can have the bridge and middle,with the Jazz adjustable coil, (position #4, volume pulled).
In position #2, you can have the middle, with either coil of the Jazz.
I think that covers it. Here's the only "gotcha": You can't have the middle with the Jazz full-on.
And, I'm fairly certain that I have the "humbucking" situation sorted out, but thats one area that always throws me. (Which is why its a rough draft.)
If this looks good to everyone, I can redraw it in the "Duncan-style" to make it easier to follow.
Hope this works. Ask any questions.
Artie
Ok, here's rough draft #1:
I'm pretty sure this does it, but it may have a couple "bugs". Maybe not.
The half of the 5-way that's in blue is just normal Strat wiring.
The tone push/pull taps the bridge anytime the bridge is selected.
Again, using #1 to denote the "neck" position - when you select the #2 notch position, you'll have the middle and the Jazz stud coil.
You can pull the volume push/pull pot at any time to give you the Jazz adjustable coil. And that means literally, any time.
So, you can have the bridge, (in position #5, tapped or not), with the Jazz adjustable coil. You can have the bridge and middle,with the Jazz adjustable coil, (position #4, volume pulled).
In position #2, you can have the middle, with either coil of the Jazz.
I think that covers it. Here's the only "gotcha": You can't have the middle with the Jazz full-on.
And, I'm fairly certain that I have the "humbucking" situation sorted out, but thats one area that always throws me. (Which is why its a rough draft.)
If this looks good to everyone, I can redraw it in the "Duncan-style" to make it easier to follow.
Hope this works. Ask any questions.
Artie
