wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
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Majestic
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
You're going to hate the Wolf pup in a Les Paul.
Everything about the Wolf pup that is intended to make it sound like a Paul on 'roids, is going to make it sound like a sonic Goulash of lifeless bass and crap on your guitar.
It's tight enough on the high strings, but mush on the bottom, even in the Wolf. You'll hate it. But go ahead and do it anyway, and then report back to us.
You're going to hate the Wolf pup in a Les Paul.
Everything about the Wolf pup that is intended to make it sound like a Paul on 'roids, is going to make it sound like a sonic Goulash of lifeless bass and crap on your guitar.
It's tight enough on the high strings, but mush on the bottom, even in the Wolf. You'll hate it. But go ahead and do it anyway, and then report back to us.
rspst14
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
You won't have any spacing problems, but keep in mind the Wolfgang pickups were designed to be directly mounted to the body. Whenever I try a new set of Duncans in my Wolfgang, I have to widen the mounting holes on the pickups to get the pickups mounted. So you may have a problem with the screws not fitting the mounting holes properly, I can't really say for sure because I never tried those pickups in another guitar. I would disagree about it being a bad idea though, if you like high output pickups, you'd probably be happy with the results.
Ryan
You won't have any spacing problems, but keep in mind the Wolfgang pickups were designed to be directly mounted to the body. Whenever I try a new set of Duncans in my Wolfgang, I have to widen the mounting holes on the pickups to get the pickups mounted. So you may have a problem with the screws not fitting the mounting holes properly, I can't really say for sure because I never tried those pickups in another guitar. I would disagree about it being a bad idea though, if you like high output pickups, you'd probably be happy with the results.
Ryan
Majestic
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
C'mon bro, think about it.
A p'up that sacrifices tone for output, knowing ahead of time that the guitar is "thin" sounding.
Then, put it in a fat-a** Les Paul. It's going to sound horrible. Period.
Heck, a Wolf sounds horrible through almost every amp you can test it in, save a couple.
Like I said, though, if you dig it, write back to us. We've been surprised before.
rspst14 said:
C'mon bro, think about it.
A p'up that sacrifices tone for output, knowing ahead of time that the guitar is "thin" sounding.
Then, put it in a fat-a** Les Paul. It's going to sound horrible. Period.
Heck, a Wolf sounds horrible through almost every amp you can test it in, save a couple.
Like I said, though, if you dig it, write back to us. We've been surprised before.
XXX-FACTOR
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
Oh, I don't know, I like the Wolf pups and I've run them through a few amps. They have a lot of power, but I don't think they sacrifice tone. If anything I think they have great tone. IMO, A Wolfgang can run with any guitar out there, for less money than most. It's a great value.
Majestic said:
Oh, I don't know, I like the Wolf pups and I've run them through a few amps. They have a lot of power, but I don't think they sacrifice tone. If anything I think they have great tone. IMO, A Wolfgang can run with any guitar out there, for less money than most. It's a great value.
papersoul
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The Wolf is a great guitar with very good tone. I was able to get amazing clean tones on my wolf that just blew away most people who heard it. I still couldn't get into the tone in the end because I like a little more beff in the LP which I ended up buying. That said, I removed the stock BB Pros in favor of a Rio Grande BBQ in the bridge.
The Wolf is a great guitar with very good tone. I was able to get amazing clean tones on my wolf that just blew away most people who heard it. I still couldn't get into the tone in the end because I like a little more beff in the LP which I ended up buying. That said, I removed the stock BB Pros in favor of a Rio Grande BBQ in the bridge.
RG 2570
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
I know i do and that is why i bought a set from a forum member here for my ibanez,and let me tell you they are great pups,i dont care what anyone else says. they have a solid bass without mud and cutting highs.
I bought them because i played a wolfgang at the store and loved the tone it got,the guitar was OK but the tone of the pups knocked me out!
in a RG ibanez they sound very balanced and aggressive but still seem to have a older tone to them??
i play a lot of AC/DC with them and they sound great for angus riffs
believe it or not i dont care for VH or his tone,but i do like these pups and i dont see any reason they sould not sound just fine in a gibson?
hey maybe he likes the tone of the wolfgang pups?Hellion said:
I know i do and that is why i bought a set from a forum member here for my ibanez,and let me tell you they are great pups,i dont care what anyone else says. they have a solid bass without mud and cutting highs.
I bought them because i played a wolfgang at the store and loved the tone it got,the guitar was OK but the tone of the pups knocked me out!
in a RG ibanez they sound very balanced and aggressive but still seem to have a older tone to them??
i play a lot of AC/DC with them and they sound great for angus riffs
believe it or not i dont care for VH or his tone,but i do like these pups and i dont see any reason they sould not sound just fine in a gibson?
RG 2570
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gimme a break! to me the wolfgang set has a powerful tone but they are not just power or i would not use them over others.
I tried a JB and that is a high output pup it had good tone and harmonics but i like the wolfgang more,it was sorta like that type of tone but the wolfgang sounded better overall.
oh yeah and back to this how powerful the wolfgangs are
after asking a million questions about them and other pups it turns out that wolfgang bridge is a 14.4K alnico 5 pup which for those curious is the same specs as a duncan C5 :saeek: . now tell me how can the wolfgang be that powerful when it is the same specs as a C5?
amen to this! i totally disagree with majestic who said they are just high output pups that sacrifice tone!XXX-FACTOR said:
gimme a break! to me the wolfgang set has a powerful tone but they are not just power or i would not use them over others.I tried a JB and that is a high output pup it had good tone and harmonics but i like the wolfgang more,it was sorta like that type of tone but the wolfgang sounded better overall.
oh yeah and back to this how powerful the wolfgangs are
after asking a million questions about them and other pups it turns out that wolfgang bridge is a 14.4K alnico 5 pup which for those curious is the same specs as a duncan C5 :saeek: . now tell me how can the wolfgang be that powerful when it is the same specs as a C5?
rspst14
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
My complaint with the Wolfgang pickups wasn't that they were so amazingly hot...they have less output than a JB. I just felt like they would work better in a slightly warmer sounding guitar. So there's no reason why a Wolfgang pickup in a Les Paul wouldn't sound good. Obviously, it's up to your ears, but my guess is that it would sound better in a Les Paul than in a Wolfgang.
Ryan
My complaint with the Wolfgang pickups wasn't that they were so amazingly hot...they have less output than a JB. I just felt like they would work better in a slightly warmer sounding guitar. So there's no reason why a Wolfgang pickup in a Les Paul wouldn't sound good. Obviously, it's up to your ears, but my guess is that it would sound better in a Les Paul than in a Wolfgang.
Ryan
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
Sounds like a fun idea to me...
The holes in the backplate will cause you trouble, since they are bigger than most normal pickup screws.
Can you tinker them to be mounted directly into the guitar?
Sounds like a fun idea to me...
The holes in the backplate will cause you trouble, since they are bigger than most normal pickup screws.
Can you tinker them to be mounted directly into the guitar?
Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
I'll throw in my 2 pennies here. I have a few reason's why I took the stock pickups out of my Wolfgang. First, every frequency had this sharp, razor like quality to it. The high end would cut thru steel but at the same time it was thin sounding. No muscle behind the scream. I even tried it thru a few amps and got the same results. Second, there were way to many overtones going on. So many that I always sounded out of tune. You know when you're tuning a guitar by harmonics and you get that waver when it's not in tune? That's how my guitar sounded when I played on the higher register playing one note at a time! Someone here said it was an intonation problem but it was'nt because again, I'm talking playing one note, not two. Playing two notes at a time was hell. Because the pickups are bottomed out in the cavities you can't take them down, so one night I raised the bridge real high and guess what? That waver was gone. That's when I knew those pickups had to go. I'm not saying they're crap, they just did'nt get it for me.
I'll throw in my 2 pennies here. I have a few reason's why I took the stock pickups out of my Wolfgang. First, every frequency had this sharp, razor like quality to it. The high end would cut thru steel but at the same time it was thin sounding. No muscle behind the scream. I even tried it thru a few amps and got the same results. Second, there were way to many overtones going on. So many that I always sounded out of tune. You know when you're tuning a guitar by harmonics and you get that waver when it's not in tune? That's how my guitar sounded when I played on the higher register playing one note at a time! Someone here said it was an intonation problem but it was'nt because again, I'm talking playing one note, not two. Playing two notes at a time was hell. Because the pickups are bottomed out in the cavities you can't take them down, so one night I raised the bridge real high and guess what? That waver was gone. That's when I knew those pickups had to go. I'm not saying they're crap, they just did'nt get it for me.
Majestic
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
In a "bright" guitar (let's say, an Ibanez Saber), the highs become too prominent, and in a "warm" guitar, the bass mushes out too much, IMO. I have to laugh at the responses I've seen, because this is the ONE site where I've seen halfl the Wolf owners have replaced the stock pickups! Where are you guys now?!?!?
Anyway, my prediction is that it won't sound great. I like to learn, though, so if being proved wrong is how my knowledge is gained, then so be it.
In a "bright" guitar (let's say, an Ibanez Saber), the highs become too prominent, and in a "warm" guitar, the bass mushes out too much, IMO. I have to laugh at the responses I've seen, because this is the ONE site where I've seen halfl the Wolf owners have replaced the stock pickups! Where are you guys now?!?!?
Anyway, my prediction is that it won't sound great. I like to learn, though, so if being proved wrong is how my knowledge is gained, then so be it.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
Well not go smart on you guys...but people do play differently, and what some might see as crap others can see it as something useful.
I have replaced mine, not because I did not like them, but because I wanted that guitars(wolfgang) feel with lowoutput PAF pickups.
Well not go smart on you guys...but people do play differently, and what some might see as crap others can see it as something useful.
I have replaced mine, not because I did not like them, but because I wanted that guitars(wolfgang) feel with lowoutput PAF pickups.
RG 2570
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
in my ibanez they sound very balanced with a good crisp tone that is not razor like. i guess you could say the bridge one is like a hot rodded 50's gibson pup? i heard VH always liked gibson pups? and the neck one is really nice it has a lot of clarity with a good output,reminds me of a P-90 with more muscle.
anyway i think it comes down to opinion more than anything else but i have to admit i often scratch my head when i hear certain things said about these since i have not had that experience with them.
maybe because i use them in a RG and not the wolfgang guitar?
I did play a wolfgang special goldtop at the store before i bought these off a forum member and that wolfgang sounded real good,and not at all like desriptions i hear?
back to the original question,they will fit in a gibson but you either have to use
them directly into the wood or get bolts for a standard mounting screw to keep them mounted to a ring,that is what i did,i went to the hardware store with a dimarzio standard screw and got 4 bolts that fit the threding and i am happy
all i can say is that was not my experience with the wolfgangs at all.Mike M. said:
in my ibanez they sound very balanced with a good crisp tone that is not razor like. i guess you could say the bridge one is like a hot rodded 50's gibson pup? i heard VH always liked gibson pups? and the neck one is really nice it has a lot of clarity with a good output,reminds me of a P-90 with more muscle.
anyway i think it comes down to opinion more than anything else but i have to admit i often scratch my head when i hear certain things said about these since i have not had that experience with them.
maybe because i use them in a RG and not the wolfgang guitar?
I did play a wolfgang special goldtop at the store before i bought these off a forum member and that wolfgang sounded real good,and not at all like desriptions i hear?
back to the original question,they will fit in a gibson but you either have to use
them directly into the wood or get bolts for a standard mounting screw to keep them mounted to a ring,that is what i did,i went to the hardware store with a dimarzio standard screw and got 4 bolts that fit the threding and i am happy
Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
Well I have to tell you, I own a 73' strat and a 73' les paul but my favorite is my 99' wolfgang and I am going to put wolfgang pickups in the les paul to match closer to the wolfgang outputs. The wolf is my favorite but I will never get rid of my strat or paul.
Well I have to tell you, I own a 73' strat and a 73' les paul but my favorite is my 99' wolfgang and I am going to put wolfgang pickups in the les paul to match closer to the wolfgang outputs. The wolf is my favorite but I will never get rid of my strat or paul.
LyMob
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Re: wolfgang pickup to fit les paul?
Guys I just have to say that I was wrong when I posted that I didn't like the wolfgangs pups sound here is why.......most people want a certain part of the eq to push through the mix.....most people want a lot of highs and a big bottom end with few mids.....well the wolfies are all evened out.....there is the same amount of bass as there is mids and highs.....what I find is that if I want a 80's sound, then just have to plug in a tubescreamer before the amps distortion if I need a more warmer and deeper sound then push in the marshall's deep switch...I realised that a screamer before the distortion emulates 99.9% the sound of a screamin demon.....dial in a little more gain and you've got a duncan distortion.....you can get whatever type of sound you want from them since the eq is very balanced, just have to put them correct amount of gain or type of distortion on your boss, digitech or whatever. The eq's and types of distortion are there for a reason don't plug your guitar directly into an amp and say the pup's suck 'cus.....all guitar players tinker with their amps and stompboxes to get the sound they want........"you gotta play like Eddie Van Halen...if you wanna sell like EVH"-Curt Mitchell
So there you got it
Paul
Guys I just have to say that I was wrong when I posted that I didn't like the wolfgangs pups sound here is why.......most people want a certain part of the eq to push through the mix.....most people want a lot of highs and a big bottom end with few mids.....well the wolfies are all evened out.....there is the same amount of bass as there is mids and highs.....what I find is that if I want a 80's sound, then just have to plug in a tubescreamer before the amps distortion if I need a more warmer and deeper sound then push in the marshall's deep switch...I realised that a screamer before the distortion emulates 99.9% the sound of a screamin demon.....dial in a little more gain and you've got a duncan distortion.....you can get whatever type of sound you want from them since the eq is very balanced, just have to put them correct amount of gain or type of distortion on your boss, digitech or whatever. The eq's and types of distortion are there for a reason don't plug your guitar directly into an amp and say the pup's suck 'cus.....all guitar players tinker with their amps and stompboxes to get the sound they want........"you gotta play like Eddie Van Halen...if you wanna sell like EVH"-Curt Mitchell
So there you got it
Paul