Yellow Ledbetter tone :: Tele / JB + ?

[EC Strat]

When I was typing my earlier response I went back and forth in my head about which position that sounded like. Only reason I said 2 was because there is still quite a bit of high end there. In any case it was my best semi-educated guess. Lol

Agree with you, sounds like too much treble for it to be 4th position Most folks default to saying 4th bc they it’s the most common

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Totally agree - it’s a 2 or a 4 position Probably position 2 to me as well. Definitely not the bridge

I watched a live video of them playing it, his switch is definitely all the way back.

Edit- just listened to it... it does sound like position 2 (bridge and middle). Who knows... regardless, it’s pretty thin and bright

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

I say, get a new pickguard, and throw in a Classic Stack. It is noiseless, and has a great ideal Strat neck tone.

This gave me an idea.

Frogman, many (not all) modern made Teles have a middle position singlecoil route already in place from the factory underneath that pickguard. You should check under yours to see If you have one. A middle position SC is essential for quack, which is what is going on in Positions 2 and 4. You would then have the option to choose whether to involve the Bridge pup at all (Position 2) or you opt for the Neck + Middle pups (Position 4). B4 replacing the neck p90, you should see if the Position 4 of middle SC plus P90 gets you close enough for your liking.

However, i agree with the others, that my ear is hearing more of a bridge pup involved type sound on Yellow Ledbetter - whether that is a Position two areangement or just the bridge pup split - than something that involves the neck pickup.

If your guitar has no middle route, i suspect that if all you do is replace the neck P90 with a neck singlecoil, you're still going to find the result lacking and need to combo the bridge pup in parallel to the neck SC someway, whether the bridge is full on, its split, in parallel w itself, or partially split like Clint recommended.

 

[Masta' C]

 

[Masta' C]

 

[Masta' C]

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

FYI: i clicked in the video link, it comes up as
blocked

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

This one reports as blocked too. But luckily notthe third link you posted

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

And there it is, definitively. A strat. 3 singlecoils. Pup selector switch set to Position 2, bridge and middle.

Thanks for posting that MC.

 

[Masta' C]

I figured might as well look up some examples, rather than perpetuate the guessing game

In the first video I posted, he shoves it into the bridge position and then appears to subtly drag it back into position 2 as he moves his hand back up

 

[alex1fly]

I say, get a new pickguard, and throw in a Classic Stack. It is noiseless, and has a great ideal Strat neck tone.

+1

Gets you a classic Strat neck tone and bucks the hum.

The clean tone of Yellow Ledbetter sounds like a notch tone, but it doesn't sound quacky in the same way that Sultans of Swing is (to my ears). I think you can get close to the vibe with a classic Strat sounding pickup in the neck and experimenting with the new neck position sounds or with the middle position sounds. Even though the Tele middle position sound is different than the notch tones of the Strat, they both have a rounded-yet-spanky quality that take you into the same territory, IMO.

 

[Frogman]

I just remembered we are talking about a tele here...so that limits our options.
My bad...

I just remembered we are talking about a tele here...so that limits our options.
My bad...

Negative, zero limitations.
I’m getting a new pickguard.
May even get 2 singles.
I only have one other 3 pickup guitar.

 

[Frogman]

I picked up an SSL-6 for the middle.



I’m wondering if so should get another for the neck, or if I should get something lower in output like the SSL-2.

 

[Frogman]

The benefit to using a spin a split is that you can dial as much strat as you want. With the stag mag for example, it's fat and middy and as you roll the spin a split back it becomes progressively more single coil like and hollow until you reach fully split. But you can find the right balance for you.

So I’m trying to figure out wiring for this.
The webpage that I found showed it for one single hum bucker that had its own volume pot and the spin pot. But Veronica tore like this one that’s HSS with one volume and one tone I’m having a hard time figuring out how I would make that work.

The second thing that I am trying to decide on his pot values. Obviously I would prefer to have a 500 K for the JB, but that would probably sound like crap for the middle and neck singles. Perhaps a master 330k(?)
A separate 500k volume for the JB and separate 330k volume for the singles would normally be the way I’d roll, but I’m afraid I might want a tone control sometimes.

Y’all’s thoughts much appreciated.

 

[jeremy]

if youre using 500k pots, i like the ssl6 a lot in the neck and middle positions. with 250k they might be dark but the 500k opens them up.