ZVEX Distortron musings....

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Welp, I finally got around to spending some real time with the Distortron as a "gain channel" on my VOX VT15.

After getting the Pearly gate set in my Starla, it made a marked difference in how the amp and pedal "meshed". Before it worked fine as a goose, but I had an impossible time dialing in the distortron as the sole method of gain using the stock PRS pickups- too bassy? not enough highs? IDK- but I wasn't happy in that respect, I could not dial in anything that sounded remotely like a Plexi- it overloaded the amp in a very weird way. The PG set totally changed that. Just something weird with the PRS pickups I guess.

Running the pedal through the '58 Bassman model set clean, I was easily able to dial in a EXTREMELY good early plexi/JTM tone. No modeller I've tried can approximate the kind of tone I was able to get today on it's own- not even on the same planet. The Zvex managed to not only let me dial in a really good basic Plexi tone, it also provides some of the feeling/dynamics of an overloaded NMV amp- like the thing is gonna explode- its got similar overtones and a "push" that you just don't feel/hear with modellers & most pedals I've tried.

This was even more apparent when I decided to use the Distorton as the sole means of gain on the JCM 2203 model. The tone and feel with the gain up about halfway was very much like a early/mid 70s "metalface" Marshall, and with the gain boost engaged , it was more " late 70s NMV" (I was reminded of JP's Unleashed in East). Again with that El34s overloaded to hell feel and overtones.

To get that kind of vibe going on at a low bedroom volume is uncanny- cos I've not experienced it before. One of the things about the Vox modellers is that if you push the Valve Reactor tube (which functions as a mini virtual tube power amp), the amp will get a farty, strident, not terribly nice overloaded type tone. So you have to be careful how you tweak the volume, master, gain, and attentuator (and each model acts pretty different)- they are all highly interactive with each other. The ZVEX somehow is causing a much more "musical" load on the amp/VR and producing more authentic tube amp overtones, and push. I've run a Plexitone as well as a Plexitube through the Vox Modellers before and neither one of them have done anything of the sort.

$150 well spent :bigthumb:
 
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Thats a good review and great to hear. I've been wondering about that one.
 
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Nice review and just on time, I've been thinking about either a Distortron or a Box of Rock lately. How would you compare it to the Plexitone?
 
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Thats a good review and great to hear. I've been wondering about that one.

Thanks!


Nice review and just on time, I've been thinking about either a Distortron or a Box of Rock lately. How would you compare it to the Plexitone?

Hmm.. The Plexitone has a very good tone, and it has a good amount of amp like harmonics (that marshall sparkle), but it's more compressed overall, and basically sounds the same whether at low gain, or with the gain cranked (or between the two channels). The differences are very slight. It's a great sounding box, but reacts more like a pedal, and less like an amp, compared to the Distortron.

The Distortron is more like the real deal amp because as you crank the gain, it starts to act like the amp its based on- at first shes pretty clean, then you start to hear that crunch, and as you get higher gain you get that overloaded feel and harmonics/overtones. Its less compressed overall, and reacts better to the volume control on your guitar. It also takes on the character of whatever you are running it through better, whereas the Plexitone sounds like the Plexitone no matter what you run it through-if that makes sense.

E.G. the Plexitone run through a TWIN amp, will sound like a PT running through a TWIN. Whereas the Distortron through the TWIN will sound more like a dimed TWIN about to come apart.

So depends on your needs/wants as to what is better. They both are great, but different.
 
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Seen here-

DSC01684.jpg


Welp, I finally got around to spending some real time with the Distortron as a "gain channel" on my VOX VT15.

After getting the Pearly gate set in my Starla, it made a marked difference in how the amp and pedal "meshed". Before it worked fine as a goose, but I had an impossible time dialing in the distortron as the sole method of gain using the stock PRS pickups- too bassy? not enough highs? IDK- but I wasn't happy in that respect, I could not dial in anything that sounded remotely like a Plexi- it overloaded the amp in a very weird way. The PG set totally changed that. Just something weird with the PRS pickups I guess.

Running the pedal through the '58 Bassman model set clean, I was easily able to dial in a EXTREMELY good early plexi/JTM tone. No modeller I've tried can approximate the kind of tone I was able to get today on it's own- not even on the same planet. The Zvex managed to not only let me dial in a really good basic Plexi tone, it also provides some of the feeling/dynamics of an overloaded NMV amp- like the thing is gonna explode- its got similar overtones and a "push" that you just don't feel/hear with modellers & most pedals I've tried.

This was even more apparent when I decided to use the Distorton as the sole means of gain on the JCM 2203 model. The tone and feel with the gain up about halfway was very much like a early/mid 70s "metalface" Marshall, and with the gain boost engaged , it was more " late 70s NMV" (I was reminded of JP's Unleashed in East). Again with that El34s overloaded to hell feel and overtones.

To get that kind of vibe going on at a low bedroom volume is uncanny- cos I've not experienced it before. One of the things about the Vox modellers is that if you push the Valve Reactor tube (which functions as a mini virtual tube power amp), the amp will get a farty, strident, not terribly nice overloaded type tone. So you have to be careful how you tweak the volume, master, gain, and attentuator (and each model acts pretty different)- they are all highly interactive with each other. The ZVEX somehow is causing a much more "musical" load on the amp/VR and producing more authentic tube amp overtones, and push. I've run a Plexitone as well as a Plexitube through the Vox Modellers before and neither one of them have done anything of the sort.

$150 well spent :bigthumb:

Excellent Jeff.....I have the Box Of Rocks and love it(as you know)....But....I always kinda wish the BOR had the extra gain and bass capabilities that your pedal has....Otherwise...I'm very happy with my ZVEX..Thanks for taking the time to post this for us.
 
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Excellent Jeff.....I have the Box Of Rocks and love it(as you know)....But....I always kinda wish the BOR had the extra gain and bass capabilities that your pedal has....Otherwise...I'm very happy with my ZVEX..Thanks for taking the time to post this for us.

No prob. I don't have the BOR myself, but I could see how adding the Distorton to the board (in addition to the BOR) would help out if you need a couple different, but "similar" sounds. Or if you have an amp that doesn't mesh as well EQ wise with the stock BOR.
 
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Check out the Catalinbread DLS. I personally like it better than the BOR or Distortron.
 
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The Distortron Engine is a brilliant circuit. My Box of Rock improved my tone moreso than anything in my collection that doesn't have a G on its headstock. Anybody who wants a pedal that adds distortion should stop ****ing around and buy one.
 
Re: ZVEX Distortron musings....

Seen here-

DSC01684.jpg


Welp, I finally got around to spending some real time with the Distortron as a "gain channel" on my VOX VT15.

After getting the Pearly gate set in my Starla, it made a marked difference in how the amp and pedal "meshed". Before it worked fine as a goose, but I had an impossible time dialing in the distortron as the sole method of gain using the stock PRS pickups- too bassy? not enough highs? IDK- but I wasn't happy in that respect, I could not dial in anything that sounded remotely like a Plexi- it overloaded the amp in a very weird way. The PG set totally changed that. Just something weird with the PRS pickups I guess.

Running the pedal through the '58 Bassman model set clean, I was easily able to dial in a EXTREMELY good early plexi/JTM tone. No modeller I've tried can approximate the kind of tone I was able to get today on it's own- not even on the same planet. The Zvex managed to not only let me dial in a really good basic Plexi tone, it also provides some of the feeling/dynamics of an overloaded NMV amp- like the thing is gonna explode- its got similar overtones and a "push" that you just don't feel/hear with modellers & most pedals I've tried.

This was even more apparent when I decided to use the Distorton as the sole means of gain on the JCM 2203 model. The tone and feel with the gain up about halfway was very much like a early/mid 70s "metalface" Marshall, and with the gain boost engaged , it was more " late 70s NMV" (I was reminded of JP's Unleashed in East). Again with that El34s overloaded to hell feel and overtones.

To get that kind of vibe going on at a low bedroom volume is uncanny- cos I've not experienced it before. One of the things about the Vox modellers is that if you push the Valve Reactor tube (which functions as a mini virtual tube power amp), the amp will get a farty, strident, not terribly nice overloaded type tone. So you have to be careful how you tweak the volume, master, gain, and attentuator (and each model acts pretty different)- they are all highly interactive with each other. The ZVEX somehow is causing a much more "musical" load on the amp/VR and producing more authentic tube amp overtones, and push. I've run a Plexitone as well as a Plexitube through the Vox Modellers before and neither one of them have done anything of the sort.

$150 well spent :bigthumb:

This is an older post but I agree with the review completely!Got this Saturday and it is the Marshall pedal I"ve been looking for. It will change tone from pickup to pickup and volume knob changes and pick attack. Good even at low volume and medium gain setting. And the price is cheap for the quality.
 
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I'd love to get mine back. Seems they forgot they had it for the past couple of weeks.

Still no ETA on the repair.
 
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