JVM lacking dynamics?

[UberMetalDood]

I played a JVM205h today and found it lacking a dynamic response. My JCM800 had a nice dynamic response and so do the plexis, but I'm not getting the same from the JVM. I'm wondering if it's the stock tubes or if the JVM just doesn't have the same response.

I like an amp that can give you a cleaner, lower volume sound when you pick lightly and a louder, more saturated sound when you pick heavy. How would you compare the JVM in that aspect, considering it's not an expensive boutique amp?

[Jolly_Rancher]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

I noticed the same weakness with the new Mesa Rectos. This was back around 2000 that I noticed a change for the weaker.

[UberMetalDood]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

I noticed the same weakness with the new Mesa Rectos. This was back around 2000 that I noticed a change for the weaker.

You're not talking about the 2010 Mesa rects are you? I tried the new ones and have had GAS since. They have really improved.

[Chickenwings]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

more gain = less dynamics.
Everything is a trade off.

[AlexR]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

Plus every time they add flexibility (ie channel switching, master volume, etc) you add a little solid state to the signal path which reduces the pure valve tone.

I first noticed this when the JCM900 replaced the 800.....a bit less dynamic in its tone.

[papersoul]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

If you can swing it, sell the jVM and grab a used or new Splawn of some sort. I plan on selling my VHT go get a Streetrod.

Good luck

[Binnerscot]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

I always thought that the JCM800 was more dynamic than most in that same gain range, so that would sound normal to me.

I have played the JVM410 and thought it was a great amp. It was a touch less dynamic than the Mesas that I have. It was not so flat that it was unresponsive, just different.

[ken361]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

try the new slash amp

[drew_half_empty]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

No I don't think they're very dynamic--most big amps with channel switching and cascading gain aren't

[Warheart]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

hmmm I thought that the JVM had the same power section as the JCM800?

Perhaps try using a cleaner channel and a boost pedal?

[UberMetalDood]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

If you can swing it, sell the jVM and grab a used or new Splawn of some sort. I plan on selling my VHT go get a Streetrod.

Good luck

That is definitely something I am considering.

[oilpit]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

People who buy 4000000 channel amps don't care about dynamics, they just care about gain and "versatility"

In short, yeah, I owned a JVM a while back, no dynamics whatsoever.

[ricc]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

That is definitely something I am considering.

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=206085

this guy has a splawn for sale!

[Binnerscot]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

People who buy 4000000 channel amps don't care about dynamics, they just care about gain and "versatility".

Not true at all.

Any high gain cascading circuit will natually compress, it is the nature of the beast.

Many of those multi-channel beasts still a have very dynamic response as you back down the gain or go to lower gain channels/settings.

[drew_half_empty]

Re: JVM lacking dynamics?

Not true at all.

Any high gain cascading circuit will natually compress, it is the nature of the beast.

Many of those multi-channel beasts still a have very dynamic response as you back down the gain or go to lower gain channels/settings.

Sort of, it's still different. Creating a lot of artificial gain will of course kill your dynamics, but any amp with a lot of stuff in them loses dynamics as a result of all that... stuff.

Some effects loops can be tone suckers, anything with MIDI is definitely a tone sucker, and basically anything that switches is by nature sort of a tone sucker. You kind of have to plug into a cranked old amp to understand.