what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

People buy Applecraple for a fortune....they are made in china!
Quality is dependent on how you make it, not who makes it!
Besides Asia has long since passed the west.....we are the backwater stuff these days!

[zzmoore]

Re: what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

People buy Applecraple for a fortune....they are made in china!
Quality is dependent on how you make it, not who makes it!
Besides Asia has long since passed the west.....we are the backwater stuff these days!

The idea that "China" only makes junk, or not as good as the USA, is the epitome of racism.
Be it Celestion, Vox, or WHOEVER
China makes the product at the demands of THAT companies specs.
China would be more than happy to hand wire amps for Matchless.
Quality does not adhere to imaginary lies on a map.
best

[Van Noord]

Re: what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

The idea that "China" only makes junk, or not as good as the USA, is the epitome of racism.
Be it Celestion, Vox, or WHOEVER
China makes the product at the demands of THAT companies specs.
China would be more than happy to hand wire amps for Matchless.
Quality does not adhere to imaginary lies on a map.
best

Actually, it's simply pregudice. Not Racism.
Racism is an ugly word that envokes and spreads hatred. It is used far too loosely these days.
Nobody hates China for their manufacturing abilities. They are being stereotyped for sometimes producing and providing poor quality products to the world.

[Powdered Toast Man]

Re: what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

Nobody hates China for their manufacturing abilities. They are being stereotyped for sometimes producing and providing poor quality products to the world.

Nobody hates China for their quality either. People hate China because they have incredibly lax labor and environmental standards which allow their factories to manufacture goods extremely cheap thereby undercutting Western workers. Companies have been moving production of their products there because it's cheaper to have a Chinese factory make something and have it shipped halfway around the world than it is to employ their own workforce in their own building with their own equipment. Essentially they blow away the overhead of having to actually MAKE things and employ people to do it. When companies do that, they cease to be makers of products and they just become a brand.

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

Well that is capitalism for you.....money does not smell...they just are.
And we started out so well ourselves???

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

Tonally no issues either with the Chinese made Celestions.

[Ayrton]

Re: what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

China's labor cost have risen significantly over the last few years. The average labor cost per hour in China surged from US$0.60 in 2000 to US$2.90 by 2011, equivalent to 1.5 times the average cost in Thailand, 2.5 times the going rate in the Philippines and 3.5 times the cost in Indonesia.

You can get all the quality out of China you want to pay for.

[Adieu]

Re: what year did celestion go chinese for greenbacksand vintage 30s?

These are luxury items, and they are in business to make money, not be our buddies and give us the cheapest price they can.

Celestion is a perfect example of this phenomenon, as is Epiphone moving production to China.

I am speaking purely from a business/quality aspect, I am not factoring politics into this.

...you didn't?! Did you just compare elite speakers that cost more per unit than certain entire guitars to such "gems" as the Epiphone LP JR!? Furthermore, these Celestions do the job, unlike Epiphone.

If anything, Celestion's success should be an example to aspire to for those slackers.