Ideas on getting rid of a spider...

[Securb]

Re: Ideas on getting rid of a spider...

Have an honest conversation with her about the amp. Educate her on the differences between the amp and the sound you are looking for. I would think if you explain how the amp is limiting your growth as a musician she will be willing to listen. If the money is not an issue and it won't impact your household budget I would think she will be resonable. If not get a new "she" then a new amp.

[Surgeon]

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Maybe you could talk her into running it through a better cab,,,,,,,,sort-of a compromised solution.
The cab could also serve a better amp/head in the future, so it's never wasted money to get a pro-level cab.

That or try to help her get a better to e out of it. Suggest/offer sitting with her to set it up.
The condescention of "your amp is bad and you sound bad, get a better amp" won't probably lead to anything good and won't help your relation and band dynamics... Being in a band is about more than tone.

[BriGuy1968]

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Perhaps just a different speaker?

Also, those Line 6 Spiders are capable of a bazillion different sounds… Maybe it’s just a matter of picking a different amp model or whatever for it. It might be easier to get her to adjust her sound than it is to get her to buy a new amp... particularly if money is tight.

Also could be a matter of her dialing in her sound at home but then it sounds like crap when she’s in the mix. I had that going on for a while and finally asked my bandmates to bear with me one night while I fiddled with dials for a half an hour or so to get it tweaked for the mix instead. They were more than willing to oblige and our stage sound improved immensely.

Everybody’s sound is a matter of personal pride for them and a lot of times it’s a difficult conversation to tell someone that it sucks.

Of course, it could also just be that she has no ear for sound, too much pride to change, and too dumb to realize that she’s pushing it.

[Darg1911]

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Tell her that either her amp goes or she goes. Then don't ever run for public office ...

[Synapsys]

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Do women know anything about gear?

Irony mode /ON

[Kamanda~SD]

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You can skip to 8:30

A new cab is only going to make a marginal difference. There's lots better for cheap!

[Coma]

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Do women know anything about gear?

Irony mode /ON

Why?

[dxlxntxxlxr]

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Maybe you could talk her into running it through a better cab,,,,,,,,sort-of a compromised solution.
The cab could also serve a better amp/head in the future, so it's never wasted money to get a pro-level cab.

It doesn't even have a speaker out lol

[dxlxntxxlxr]

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You can skip to 8:30

A new cab is only going to make a marginal difference. There's lots better for cheap!

I love that video

[Blille]

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[Darg1911]

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[BriGuy1968]

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You can skip to 8:30

A new cab is only going to make a marginal difference. There's lots better for cheap!

I just finally got a chance to watch that… Freaking HILARIOUS!

[dave74]

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Offer to send it in to those guys for "improvement modifications"!

[Boogie Bill]

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Which model Spider?

I would make a stereo recording of your band live in your practice space. If she hears it on playback, she might change her mind.

Amps can be intimidating, as can new technologies. Some people like their comfort zones. Lord knows I hear a lot of people say they can't handle all the knobs and switches on Mesa amps. Is she a technophobe?

Women hear differently than men. Men will adjust a graphic EQ with the mids scooped. A woman will almost always reverse the curve into a mild frown, lowering the bass and high treble frequencies. That might sound wrong, bad, congested, nasal, muddy, etc. to a guy.

Is money an issue? Does a better amp mean a bigger, heavier amp that she might not be able to lift or transport? What are you willing to do if these are issues for her?

You need to talk to her, without being condescending or judgmental. It will be hard. Get your point across, and then let it go. If you nag her she will dig in...and you WILL LOSE!! (Nag a guy about it and he'll probably want to punch you out!)

Good luck.

Bill

[eclecticsynergy]

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If you have a talk about tone, you could phrase it as a combined-band-tone issue, rather than just an individual bad tone issue. You might be able to convince her of the actual truth, that what sounds best by itself seldom sounds best when in a mix among other tones & instruments. Chances are, that Spider is capable of producing at least one or two better tones for the band's collective sound than it has been so far.