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  • #16
    Re: Forgotten Amps

    knew a few guys with mode four heads but theyve all blown up by this point

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    • #17
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      What about the line 6/bogner ones?

      I remember trying the MA series and hating it! Preamp sound was so... Rough. Unrefined.
      Perhaps if you cranked the snot out of it the el34s would smooth it out leaving you with a perfectly buzzy tone...

      I remember when fender came out with the Cyber Twin and thought it was the future of amps.
      But the only hybrid fender I see that really caught on was the super champ XD/x2. The deluxe VM they made that was like a bigger super champ never even took off. I heard it had QC issues?

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      • #18
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        What about the line 6/bogner ones?

        I remember trying the MA series and hating it! Preamp sound was so... Rough. Unrefined.
        Perhaps if you cranked the snot out of it the el34s would smooth it out leaving you with a perfectly buzzy tone...

        I remember when fender came out with the Cyber Twin and thought it was the future of amps.
        But the only hybrid fender I see that really caught on was the super champ XD/x2. The deluxe VM they made that was like a bigger super champ never even took off. I heard it had QC issues?

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by NegativeEase View Post
          DOn't get me wrong, for a rehearsal space, it makes A LOT of sense to have lots of Solid State gear l
          Most of the rehearsal studios in NYC have JCM 800s or 900s.

          I don’t mind solid state or modeling amps, I use a Code 100 combo. But that MG amp was just cheesy sounding. Even with all the effects turned off it was brittle sounding.


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          • #20
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            Originally posted by NegativeEase View Post
            How about the only decent Crate amp I can recall, the Blue Voodoo. -but that's because it was designed by Ampeg and probably can be considered a rebadged Ampeg after Crate/St Louis Music Bought them in the 80s..

            Also, while Marty Friedman used them for the power section of his live rig, to my knowledge it was never his "A" amp for the pre section or used in the studio. -still though pretty good amp.
            Sammy Hagar had a signature Red Voodoo, which as far as I ever knew was just a rebadged BV in red. A friend of mine had a blue voodoo back in the day and it was a great sounding amp. It was nothing like the crappy solid state Crate combos I had heard. Another friend of mine still has a Crate Palomino tube combo. At one point Billy Gibbons was messing around with those in the ZZ Top backline.
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            • #21
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              By coincidence I was googling Bogner/Line 6 yesterday (the primary result wa someone on this forum loving it.)

              Still weird the MA series got concluded with little fanfare, but I guess there wasn’t any lament. I started listening to Segeborn videos on YouTube, he has the MG100 sounding fine (but if I had to be picky, it does lack bass and sound a bit fizzy. Could be his EQ but no other amp he dials in sounds that bass-less.)
              Originally posted by King Buzzo
              I love when people come up to me and say “Your guitar sound was better on Stoner Witch, when you used a Les Paul. “...I used a Fender Mustang reissue on that, dumbass!

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Silence Kid View Post
                By coincidence I was googling Bogner/Line 6 yesterday (the primary result wa someone on this forum loving it.)

                Still weird the MA series got concluded with little fanfare, but I guess there wasn’t any lament. I started listening to Segeborn videos on YouTube, he has the MG100 sounding fine (but if I had to be picky, it does lack bass and sound a bit fizzy. Could be his EQ but no other amp he dials in sounds that bass-less.)
                I'm the one who loves the Spidervalve.

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                • #23
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                  The Spider Valves aren't terrible, for a Spider. The other one that's a forgotten amp is the Bogner Alchemist, which is what Bogner got out of their joint venture with Line 6.
                  The Mode Four, Metalhead, and Warp 7 all came out around the end of the Nu-Metal era, and their sales suffered for it. I've heard good things about the Warp 7, bit never tried it or the Metalhead. The Mode Four was okay, just a higher powered AVT series, but the 4×12 cabs were pretty good.
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                  • #24
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                    The Marshall MAs were pretty hopeless. I remember those. MIC tube Marshalls for the price of a used DSL/TSL. Unreliable and flimsy.

                    Also I wouldn't call the following amps forgotten, but unknown maybe? The Marshall Astoria combos. Those things sound freaking great IMO yet there's not a word about them anywhere.

                    Egnaters are so irrelevant these days. No new releases, news, endorsements or anything at all, really. Nothing. Makes me wonder if they even exist at all at this point.

                    Traynors were great amps in the 90s that nobody knows about these days.

                    Ibanez had a tube head with a built-in Tubescreamer. Thermion I think it was called?

                    Blackheart had some sweet tiny combos in the past decade.

                    And whatever that Dime solid-state head was. Was it a Dean technically?
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                    • #25
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                      My first tube amp could have been way worse than the Blackheart 5w I had

                      Were they not related to crate amps
                      Crate v5 and v33 or whatever they were called were pretty bad budget tube amps that I remember all my small local music stores not being able to get rid of

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                      • #26
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                        Does anyone still talk about the epi valve Jr?

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                        • #27
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                          So strange, I almost included the Tubsecreamer + Ibanez and the little Epiphone valve thing but they’re ‘post-internet’ and meld into a lot of fads of the month for me. Then again the MA ought to be in that boat too but they’re were really quickly forgotten.
                          Originally posted by King Buzzo
                          I love when people come up to me and say “Your guitar sound was better on Stoner Witch, when you used a Les Paul. “...I used a Fender Mustang reissue on that, dumbass!

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by FuseG4 View Post
                            Does anyone still talk about the epi valve Jr?
                            I think alot of people bought them to mod because its such a simple circuit. I actually found a demounted chassis in my garage that i have no idea where it came from, maybe i was drunk and bought it on ebay to mod but i honestly cant remember buying or recieving it.
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                            • #29
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                              Well, almost every ad in late 70s Guitar Player magazines had a product that is made by a company that isn't around. Fender usually had the back cover, and those models aren't made anymore. But it is a blast to see all the ads inside with amps and effects touted as the best thing ever.
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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by DavidRavenMoon View Post
                                I had a Vox VT80+. That has a great Marshall patch. Several actually.

                                That was the main patch I used most of the time!



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                                Well, the ones I've tried where on the cheaper side with small speaker.
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