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  • Please help! Another OHM dilemma question

    Please help on this OHM challenge I'm confronted with...

    I have 2 mini amp heads: 1. Mesa Boogie Mark Five 25 with 2x4ohm & 1x8ohm output and
    2. Marshall DSL1HR1 with a single 16ohm output

    I am going for 2 cabinets - each with a single 10" speaker

    Question: What ohm rating should both speakers/cabs be in order to use both mini heads? And should they be wired in parallel or series?

    Thanks in advance!

    If I know I'm going crazy, I must not be insane.

    Originally posted by TheLivingDead
    DON'TGETMADBRO

  • #2
    You need an 8 ohm speaker for the Mesa and 16 ohm speaker for the Marshall. Don’t wire them together, just keep them separate. Are you wanting to use both amps at once? If so get an amp splitter like Radial Tonebone Big Shot ABY and run it that way. You can get a 16 ohm speaker cab and run the Mesa into it no problem. Higher ohm speaker means it’s resisting the amp more which is safe but lower ohms speaker than the amp wants to see can damage your amp.

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    • #3
      Make both speakers 16 ohm

      Use only one with the Marshall
      Use two with the Mesa
      Or as the previous post said
      Use just one
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      • #4
        If you wire two 16ohm speakers in series/parallel wouldn't you still have 16 ohms?

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        • #5
          Explain what you mean by wiring them both ways

          If you have four

          You wire speaker one and two in series (32 ohms)
          And speakers three and four in series (32 Ohms)

          Then the 1&2 pair gets wired to the 3&4 pair
          in parallel
          (32+32)÷4=16

          If they are all four 16 ohm speakers
          the result is a 16 ohm load

          Doing the reverse works as well

          1&2 in parallel (16+16)÷4=8
          3&4:in parallel (16+16)÷4=8

          Then the pairs in series
          8+8=16

          16 ohms

          But i am unaware how this is done with only two speakers

          You can either wire them in series
          Or parallel, but not both ways
          Last edited by ehdwuld; 05-08-2021, 09:40 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ehdwuld View Post
            Explain what you mean by wiring them both ways

            If you have four

            You wire speaker one and two in series (32 ohms)
            And speakers three and four in series (32 Ohms)

            Then the 1&2 pair gets wired to the 3&4 pair
            in parallel
            (32+32)�4=16

            If they are all four 16 ohm speakers
            the result is a 16 ohm load

            Doing the reverse works as well

            1&2 in parallel (16+16)�4=8
            3&4:in parallel (16+16)�4=8

            Then the pairs in series
            8+8=16

            16 ohms

            But i am unaware how this is done with only two speakers

            You can either wire them in series
            Or parallel, but not both ways
            Well, I did it with 4 16's. So maybe my math is off.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Demanic View Post
              Well, I did it with 4 16's. So maybe my math is off.

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              Yes, you can wire 4X 16 ohm speakers in a series/parallel arrangement to get 16 ohms, with just 2 speakers you have to make a choice, series or parallel.

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              • #8
                To answer the OP

                Solution 1 - use an 8 ohm speaker in each cabinet. Plug each cabinet into the 2X 4 ohm jacks on the Mesa, where it says "use with 2 8 ohm speakers". For the Marshall you'll need to make a special cable or wire in a special jack on one of the cabs to put the speakers in series to get 16 ohms

                Solution 2 - use 16 ohm speakers in each cabinet and put a parallel jack on one of the cabs (the way speaker cabs are normally wired) and run a speaker cable from one cabinet to the other, then plug those into the 8 ohm jack on the Mesa. For the Marshall you'll only be able to use one cab, but it's a 1W amp, should be plenty.

                In other words, there isn't a straight forward solution to the original question, it's a compromise either way.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by devastone View Post
                  To answer the OP


                  Solution 2 - use 16 ohm speakers in each cabinet and put a parallel jack on one of the cabs (the way speaker cabs are normally wired) and run a speaker cable from one cabinet to the other, then plug those into the 8 ohm jack on the Mesa. For the Marshall you'll only be able to use one cab, but it's a 1W amp, should be plenty.

                  In other words, there isn't a straight forward solution to the original question, it's a compromise either way.
                  This is the method i use
                  i have two 16 ohm speakers in separate cabinetcabinets
                  and daisy chain them together for my 5 watt Bugera G5

                  I have used the one 16 ohm with the Bugera while i waited on the second cab to arrive

                  Sounds fine

                  If you only plan on using one at a time
                  Get a single 16 ohm cab
                  and use with either one

                  If each has its own cab
                  Make them both 16 ohm

                  Put different speakers in each one and get new flavors by swapping up
                  EHD
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