what do you think of this layout?

[Davey]

excuse the very ****ty pic, but i forgot that i was saving to jpg.

anyway .. an LC15 and twin tube classic rolled into one.. once i get both in my hands, this is what the result will be.

what do you think? the spacing will vary and i got no idea what color/material the front face will be or which knobs i'm gonna use.. but it's gonna be kickass hehe

 

[Forbes]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

Looks very user friendly, good layout.

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

I think you'll end up with a big bunch of broken parts in your hand. LOL

The whole purpose of the dual mode pedal is so you can switch it with your feet. I think the idea of converting your combo into a head may work fine, as long as the chassis is facing the same direction it does in the combo.

However, I think you'd be better off just using the amp and pedal separately, since there's a lot of things you're not accounting for. #1 grounding issues....if you combine the two pieces onto a front panel, you may create a ground loop that fries something, probably the pedal. Also, having sensitive pedal components next to a tube power section can wreak havoc.
On top of that, you'll want to figure out a way to switch the pedal's features externally, and you aren't an electronic engineer. Another thing is that it's pots and switches are probably mounted directly to it's board, so it wouldn't fit into your head chassis the way you want it to.

My advise....bring your Laney combo home, plug in your new pedal, and play it. You already learned the hard way from the cabinet experience, and from the tone of your posts about it, you could have just spent the same amount of effort and money on a factory cab. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Kac]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

Sounds complicated, Just set the pedal on the floor, plug it into the amp, and ROCK ON!!!

~Kac

 

[HolyDirt]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

I think you'll end up with a big bunch of broken parts in your hand. LOL

The whole purpose of the dual mode pedal is so you can switch it with your feet. I think the idea of converting your combo into a head may work fine, as long as the chassis is facing the same direction it does in the combo.

However, I think you'd be better off just using the amp and pedal separately, since there's a lot of things you're not accounting for. #1 grounding issues....if you combine the two pieces onto a front panel, you may create a ground loop that fries something, probably the pedal. Also, having sensitive pedal components next to a tube power section can wreak havoc.
On top of that, you'll want to figure out a way to switch the pedal's features externally, and you aren't an electronic engineer. Another thing is that it's pots and switches are probably mounted directly to it's board, so it wouldn't fit into your head chassis the way you want it to.

My advise....bring your Laney combo home, plug in your new pedal, and play it. You already learned the hard way from the cabinet experience, and from the tone of your posts about it, you could have just spent the same amount of effort and money on a factory cab. Just my 2 cents.

+1. You have to plan this stuff out WAY more than that. I've combined pedals into rackmounts/single enclosures and I must say, it's a little more difficult that it looks. Even with my experience in this kinda stuff, I wouldn't try what your doing for reasons that GJ stated. If you feel confident enough, you could try it.. but I don't think your really gaining enough in this situation to do so..

 

[Davey]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

and you aren't an electronic engineer.

who says i'm not :lmao:
the things are going to be completely separated, not mounted on the same chasis

My advise....bring your Laney combo home, plug in your new pedal, and play it. You already learned the hard way from the cabinet experience, and from the tone of your posts about it, you could have just spent the same amount of effort and money on a factory cab. Just my 2 cents.

oh, that cab was something i had to go through.. i could have bought a framus for it yea, but it's not like i paid anything for it (apart of the speakers).
it sounds great and for now, that's all that matters.

oh yea.. i dont like pedals a whole lot.



guys guys.. this is just a thought about the layout.. geez. it's not like i have any of those at home already LOL

 

[ErikH]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

Don't forget also that you'll need to figure out how to run both off the same power supply if you plan on doing that. The pedal runs off 16v AC and the amp will be considerably more.

Ok, you post a pic of a layout and say that it's the pedal and amp rolled in to one, which means same chasis. Now you're saying they won't be in the same chasis. Which is it, bro?

 

[Davey]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

it's the amp and pedal roled into one head yea. however i can have them physicaly completely separate inside the enclosure. unsolder the pots and put them on the front panel, then run wires from it, to the pots.

i know i'm complicating stuff beyong imagination, but i'm silly like that.

running them off the same power supply is no biggie either. basicaly the same as having the amp and the pedals power supply plugged into the same plug.

the complicated thing is.. running all of this to the amps footswitch :lmao:


i'm hopeless huh?

it's realy no diferent than having it in front of you on a pedalboard. it's just mounted into the head. of course there's a LOT more to it than that, but basicaly what it boils down to.
i know i can pull it off. wouldnt be the first time doing something like this, if anything, it's on a larger scale.

and trust me, there's a lot more thought going into it than just cut&pasting a front panel picture together

 

[ErikH]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

Then they are going to be in the same chasis. Physically they'll be separate but once mounted in the same chasis, they will not be separate, they will have to share the same ground, which means they'll also need to share the same power supply (mother nature says so).

Powering them both with 1 plug IS an issue. You cannot just simple tap the power off one and power the other. It needs proper filtering, and if you were tap in to the amp's power supply for the pedal, then you'll need to make sure that the voltage is regulated and at the correct voltage.

If the pots are PCB mounted, then you have your work cut out for you. Not worth the hassel IMO. It's very different than having it out front on the floor in it's own enclosure. It has it's own power supply, own ground, own power filtering. It is completely 100% separate from the amp.

You're adventurous and it's a good idea for sure. I just hope you know what you're doing because bad power wiring can mean a nasty zap, especially from a tube amp.

 

[Davey]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

how is it diferent than running each into the same wall plug?


wall plug -> 3 plug extension -> 1 plug amp, 2nd plug pedal. dont they share the same power supply and ground?
the pedal has it's own adaptor, which brings the voltage down to 16V. i dont mean to run it at 230V


and how do they share the same chasis, if they are two independent units. the front pannel is going to be separated. not part of the amp chassis.


get of my back people.. you're making me think about it even before i have the amp hre, so i could take a look at how it's built and if it's at all feasible. this was just a quick mockup of the front panel cos i had nothing else to do.. it's like you're already screamin you're gonna **** up, you're gonna **** up and i havent even started with ANYTHING yet. i got a couple of years of electronics major college and i didnt get out completely stupid

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

Wow.

You ask people what they think. They do so. You don't hear what you want to hear and now you tell people to get off your back?

You have problems bigger than trying to fit a pedal into a head, bro.

 

[Davey]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

i'm asking about the layout, not how to put it together. those questions will follow when i have the items on hand

 

[aleclee]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

You ask people what they think. They do so. You don't hear what you want to hear and now you tell people to get off your back?

You have problems bigger than trying to fit a pedal into a head, bro.

WORD

 

[ErikH]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

Bro, news to ya, but the front panel IS part of the chasis. Open a Marshall head or any amp and you'll see. The front panel is just labeled fancy so you know what the controls are, some front panels are stick on pieces that go over that part of the chasis.

Good luck with it. Just trying to keep you from making your hair stand on end.

 

[Davey]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

Bro, news to ya, but the front panel IS part of the chasis. Open a Marshall head or any amp and you'll see. The front panel is just labeled fancy so you know what the controls are, some front panels are stick on pieces that go over that part of the chasis.

i know that. i am saying that it wont be the way on MY head. i got other plans with it. like i said i am complicating stuff but i dont have a problem with it.

Good luck with it. Just trying to keep you from making your hair stand on end.

yea, thanks. i apretiate it. and i'm reapeating myself, but this will get far more drawing board time and thinking, than just a lousy picture. i was bored. sorry.

 

[Sune]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

I look forward to seeing this :laugh2:

 

[ErikH]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

i know that. i am saying that it wont be the way on MY head. i got other plans with it. like i said i am complicating stuff but i dont have a problem with it.


yea, thanks. i apretiate it. and i'm reapeating myself, but this will get far more drawing board time and thinking, than just a lousy picture. i was bored. sorry.

Ok, that's cool. So for simplicity sake, sort of a horizontal rack?

 

[Davey]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

Ok, that's cool. So for simplicity sake, sort of a horizontal rack?

exactly

what i am NOT doing. i'm not stripping each of parts and reassembling them together. i am keeping them as standalone units, just the knobs/switches are going to be mounted elsewhere. the power supply is going to be treated in a similar way than a rack supply


stfu sune

 

[Sune]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

stfu sune

 

[ErikH]

Re: what do you think of this layout?

exactly

what i am NOT doing. i'm not stripping each of parts and reassembling them together. i am keeping them as standalone units, just the knobs/switches are going to be mounted elsewhere. the power supply is going to be treated in a similar way than a rack supply


stfu sune

Ok, that's a clearer picture. The fun part will be dealing with the PCB mounted jacks and pots.