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  • Man Im so sick of this!

    Im on the prowl for an amp, and im reading reviews for marshall clones and fairly british stuff, and I keep reading "oh the bass is too loose!" now maybe im just stupid, but isnt this one of the DEFINING sounds of the Marshall Plexi, the bouncy bottom end? I know listening too all my "strat wielding" guitar heroes you can hear the bouncy bottom end, espescially on some Yngwie stuff, who IMO has GREAT tone.
    Originally posted by drew_half_empty
    what the hell ever happened to rock & roll being loud & brash & pinning you to the wall behind you?

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    Re: Man Im so sick of this!

    too loose is a very subjective thing. The tightness you need depends on your playing style and so should be the amp you choose. Loose bottom end might be great for a lot of classic rock and stuff like that, but won't cut it for droptuned death or prog metal.
    Maybe a lot of people buy marshalls to play metal with and then find out that they aren't tight enough, that could explain a lot of those statements.
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      Re: Man Im so sick of this!

      Originally posted by Loserchief View Post
      too loose is a very subjective thing. The tightness you need depends on your playing style and so should be the amp you choose. Loose bottom end might be great for a lot of classic rock and stuff like that, but won't cut it for droptuned death or prog metal.
      Maybe a lot of people buy marshalls to play metal with and then find out that they aren't tight enough, that could explain a lot of those statements.

      goes to show why the "Marshall is the best" stereotype is financially destroying metalheads!
      Originally posted by drew_half_empty
      what the hell ever happened to rock & roll being loud & brash & pinning you to the wall behind you?

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      • #4
        Re: Man Im so sick of this!

        Speakers and cabinets will also have alot of effect on the "tightness" of the amp.

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        • #5
          Re: Man Im so sick of this!

          Originally posted by devastone View Post
          Speakers and cabinets will also have alot of effect on the "tightness" of the amp.
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            Re: Man Im so sick of this!

            Yeah ,the thing is ,evry tone description is subjective ,and tightness is more subjective than any other description!As we all are less sensitive to bass frequencies ,some are more and some are less sensitive to low midds.And this is where the story begins!You can play metal on E and it sounds tight.same amp and cab and guitar ,you play it on D and it sounds muddy!Try it on C and it will be unbearable.
            Every amp/PU/guitar/Cab has it's sound diagram.Or character.Check them out ,ask the people who plays what and with wich equipment.Foe example ,Kerry King uses Bass Cabs for his tone ,but he also uses a EQ to match his signal to it.Without EQ ,he will sound really muddy!So teh EQ is one of the key ingredients in his tone!
            Engl powerball is super tight.Try to play some classic rock!It will "not" deliver it like a Laney or Marshall.
            So you have to know what you need ,who (not just known artists) uses the right equipment and instruments taht deliver your needs.
            I know that marketing is the dark side of the force ,but you can still control it and reach the dream equipment!
            Have a nice journey!
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            • #7
              Re: Man Im so sick of this!

              Hmmmm, I use a Marshall 2204 with 75w Celestions in my 4x12 and the bass is plenty tight for me. I use it to play stuff from Iron Maiden to Death Metal (Morbid Angel) and it sounds great. I wouldn't trade it for a modern "high-gain Metal amp" for anything.

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              • #8
                Re: Man Im so sick of this!

                Originally posted by Stratovarious View Post
                "Marshall is the best" stereotype

                hahahaa
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                • #9
                  Re: Man Im so sick of this!

                  When will you guys learn?

                  Celtic is the best!
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