on another thread, some people were bashing guitars with 24 frets, saying 22 fret guitars are better. why are guitars with 22 frets better than guitars with 24? I own guitars with both and hear nor feel any difference...
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Re: 22 frets vs. 24
i do notice a difference. i usually prefer 22 fret guitars but i own a 24 fret as well.
the big difference that i notice is that the neck pup doesnt sound the same on a 24 and i like the sound from the neck of a 22
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Some people prefer the pickup placement on 22 fret guitars. Also, the unsupported length of the neck is generally shorter on 22 fret guitars, leading to greater neck stiffness. This often leads to a perceived improvement in tone.Originally posted by LesStratmake sure that you own the gear, not vice versa.
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Originally posted by jeremyi do notice a difference. i usually prefer 22 fret guitars but i own a 24 fret as well.
the big difference that i notice is that the neck pup doesnt sound the same on a 24 and i like the sound from the neck of a 22
I've wondered about the question posed as well and couldn't come up with any solution other than comparing two different bolt on necks.PRS McCarty Korina loaded w/Godwoods
PRS Custom 22 loaded w/Dragon IIs
GJ2 Shredder loaded w/Habaneros
Rivera Knucklehead 55 Reverb/Blackstar HT-1/VHT Special Ultra 6
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various pedals
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Re: 22 frets vs. 24
I prefer 22 frets. Here's why.
The problem with most 24 fret guitars is that they are essentially a 22 fret guitar with an extended fretboard, thus pushing the neck pickup towards the bridge.
Now, what a luthier like Jeffrey Earle T. (JET Guitars) does is build necks in a 25" scale, where the heel of the neck extends the full length of the fretboard. The 24th fret is actually a brass piece that is screwed into the neck. Also, the neck pup is situated right up against that brass piece, and is directly coupled to the top. Since there's no wood beyond the 24th fret, and no pup mounting ring, the neck pup can be placed as closer to where it would be on a 22 fret guitar. Although it's not a complete fix, it's pretty close.Last edited by KoreanGuitarMan; 08-26-2004, 03:23 PM."Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so." ~ Ford Prefect
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i can tell the difference on the neck pickup but i generally don't like the guitars that have 24 frets for different reasons.
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Originally posted by KoreanGuitarManSome boutique guitars have necks that are properly scaled for 24 frets
The common scale lengths are 24.675" (often incorrectly described as 24-3/4") as on Gibsons, 25.5" on most Fenders, and 25" as on PRS. In all three cases, the distance from the bridge to the 24th fret is 1/4 of the scale length (ignoring compensation for intonation).
If the scale length is pretty much standard and the fret position is dictated by math/physics, what are the boutique builders doing that is supposedly different?Originally posted by LesStratmake sure that you own the gear, not vice versa.
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Never felt a need to get that high. I use all 22 Fret guitars and a 21 on my Fender.7 FREE TRACKS OF ROCK - driftrocks.bandcamp.com
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Originally posted by alecleeHow so?
The common scale lengths are 24.675" (often incorrectly described as 24-3/4") as on Gibsons, 25.5" on most Fenders, and 25" as on PRS. In all three cases, the distance from the bridge to the 24th fret is 1/4 of the scale length (ignoring compensation for intonation).
If the scale length is pretty much standard and the fret position is dictated by math/physics, what are the boutique builders doing that is supposedly different?"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so." ~ Ford Prefect
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My main beef with 24 fret guitars is the location of the neck pickup. there's something about squashing it toward the bridge that messes with the tone.
it may be difficult to tell between an ESP hammet and and Epi LP, but on two similarly spec'd models, (say, a PRS CU22 with whammy and a PRS CU24) it's pretty obvious.Last edited by Hot _Grits; 08-26-2004, 04:02 PM.Originally posted by Jolly...but then again, I'm so deaf I can't even hear myself fart.
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Originally posted by KoreanGuitarManSee my edited post. There is a correct scale length for 24 fret guitars (PRS uses it) but neck pup placement is remedied by other construction techniques.
As for scale, I think it's presumptuous to say that there's a "best" scale for tone, particularly in the context of 22 vs 24 fret guitars. There's certainly a tendency for longer-scaled instruments to sound different from shorter ones but which is better is strictly a matter of taste. If it weren't, builders like Tom Anderson wouldn't offer their instruments in multiple scale lengths.
As for "direct coupling", that sounds like Ed Roman's marketing mumbo jumbo. I won't say anything more on that topic.Originally posted by LesStratmake sure that you own the gear, not vice versa.
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Re: 22 frets vs. 24
its the placement of the neck pickup for me...but most players who use 24 fret guitars dont use the neck pickup as much, i guess...i love the sound of the neck pickup (and use it 80% of the time) on my 22 fret guitars...I found I never used it on my guitar with 24 frets, and eventually sold that guitar...Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Mincerits the placement of the neck pickup for me...but most players who use 24 fret guitars dont use the neck pickup as much, i guess...i love the sound of the neck pickup (and use it 80% of the time) on my 22 fret guitars...I found I never used it on my guitar with 24 frets, and eventually sold that guitar...
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