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  • Hard Wood Question!

    What year did Fender stop using ash on their basses or did they only ever use poplar and alder?
    BASSES: Fender Geddy Lee Jazz Bass/Ric 4003 Bass (Blue)
    Fender 51 P Bass RI/Traveler Bass
    Schecter 5 String (Sunburst)/Gibson SG EBO RI
    Epiphone Rivoli (VC Sunburst)
    Warwick Thumb BO/Kramer DMZ 4000/
    Fender Jazz 72 RI (Sunburst)/Ernie Ball Earthwood ABG
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    Gibson 09 Thunderbird (Sunburst)
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    Re: Hard Wood Question!

    They still use Ash on the see through finishes and Alder on the painted ones, at least the US models.

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    • #3
      Re: Hard Wood Question!

      Originally posted by Will S-T View Post
      They still use Ash on the see through finishes and Alder on the painted ones, at least the US models.
      +1. I don't know of any models that use poplar. Some Squiers do, but not any "real" Fenders that I know of.
      "Everything must be black, like the storm of justice!"

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      • #4
        Re: Hard Wood Question!

        Originally posted by SabbathFan0220 View Post
        +1. I don't know of any models that use poplar. Some Squiers do, but not any "real" Fenders that I know of.
        MIM series did use Poplar,but Fender went back to alder because Poplar became more expensive than alder..Not sure on the bass models,but on the MIM Standard series strats/teles,they used Poplar..
        Amps: 66 Fender BF Pro Reverb Combo,1973 50 Watt Marshall Head,Marshall 4x12 A/V Cab,Vox ToneLab LE,Vox VTH Valvetronix 120 Head,Vox AD 2x12 Cab,Roland Cube 20X

        Guitars: Several Stratocasters,2 Fender Telecasters,Gibson SG Standard,Tokai Love Rock Les Paul,Dean Acoustic.

        Pickups: SD SSL2,SSL5,Twangbanger,Antiquity Surfers,59N,Seth Lover N/B,Dimarzio Fred,Dimarzio VPAF N,Fender Fat 50s,Fralin SP43 Bridge,Brobucker,Antiquity Texas Hot.

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        • #5
          Re: Hard Wood Question!

          Dan Smith: "For a while, the environmentalists didn't want us cutting alder. There was an endangered species controversy, with some logging restrictions up in Oregon, so we had to use poplar. Leo had used it on many guitars "� Musicmasters and others "� and we later used it for the Bullet guitars. It's a good wood. We used it on some American Standards in the early '90s. From the beginning, poplar was spec'd to be used on the American Standard as a substitute."

          George Blanda: "All the Strat bodies were alder up until about 1990. When it got so hard to get alder, we were faced with either using poplar or not making guitars. There's a misconception that poplar is not a good tone wood. Actually, it's fine. James Burton actually specified it for his signature Tele in the late '80s, after trying a lot of different bodies. We never regarded poplar as a second-rate wood, but a lot of people preferred alder so when the restrictions eased, we were able to go back to alder in '93 or '94"
          Amps: 66 Fender BF Pro Reverb Combo,1973 50 Watt Marshall Head,Marshall 4x12 A/V Cab,Vox ToneLab LE,Vox VTH Valvetronix 120 Head,Vox AD 2x12 Cab,Roland Cube 20X

          Guitars: Several Stratocasters,2 Fender Telecasters,Gibson SG Standard,Tokai Love Rock Les Paul,Dean Acoustic.

          Pickups: SD SSL2,SSL5,Twangbanger,Antiquity Surfers,59N,Seth Lover N/B,Dimarzio Fred,Dimarzio VPAF N,Fender Fat 50s,Fralin SP43 Bridge,Brobucker,Antiquity Texas Hot.

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          • #6
            Re: Hard Wood Question!

            Poplar sounds very good. Just pick up a Music Man model made from Poplar, e.g. the Steve Morse.

            The problems with polar are:
            • It's green and messes up see-through images that are not green.
            • It is very soft and picks up dings very easily.

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            • #7
              Re: Hard Wood Question!

              Originally posted by uOpt View Post
              Poplar sounds very good. Just pick up a Music Man model made from Poplar, e.g. the Steve Morse.

              The problems with polar are:
              • It's green and messes up see-through images that are not green.
              • It is very soft and picks up dings very easily.
              Same with Basswood bodies...Basswood has been coined "Japanese Alder"
              Amps: 66 Fender BF Pro Reverb Combo,1973 50 Watt Marshall Head,Marshall 4x12 A/V Cab,Vox ToneLab LE,Vox VTH Valvetronix 120 Head,Vox AD 2x12 Cab,Roland Cube 20X

              Guitars: Several Stratocasters,2 Fender Telecasters,Gibson SG Standard,Tokai Love Rock Les Paul,Dean Acoustic.

              Pickups: SD SSL2,SSL5,Twangbanger,Antiquity Surfers,59N,Seth Lover N/B,Dimarzio Fred,Dimarzio VPAF N,Fender Fat 50s,Fralin SP43 Bridge,Brobucker,Antiquity Texas Hot.

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