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  • #1

    I'm an idiot.

    Remember my non-Gibson SG thread?

    Well after doing some research I've come to the conclusion that I'm not going to chance a real Gibson falling apart because of bad design. Also, if i ever meet TLD, he won't be able to break my guitar by looking at it.

    So I decided to do the only thing more idiotic than looking for a better built copy of a Gibson SG.

    After I earn my 2nd university degree which I'm starting next year, I'm going to build a better SG, from scratch. Slightly thicker body, bigger/more solid neck joint, nice chunky volute under the truss rod access. Possibly with a flamed maple top and a nice burst to go with it.

    Yes, my graduation present to myself will be planks of wood.
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    nothing wrong with any of that. of course the more you change it, the less sg like itll sound

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      not gonna change it much...figured I'd add a 1/4" maple top to it to bring the whole body thickness to just under 1 3/4", a little bit thinner than a strat/tele. may even do a very subtle carve like the SG Diablo.

      I realize i'll be changing up the fundamentals of the SG style, especially with the neck tenon size, but I also think it'll make a fantastic sounding guitar.

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      • #4
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        A real gibson SG is not going to fall apart unless you abuse the hell out of it! lol
        Its a guitar design that has stood the test of time for thousands and thousands of players both amateur and pro alike.
        The internet has a lot to answer for as far as myths and rumors are concerned.

        Still, if you want to build an axe from scratch for the fun of having a project, go for it and enjoy.
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        • #5
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          Originally posted by gibson175 View Post
          A real gibson SG is not going to fall apart unless you abuse the hell out of it! lol
          Its a guitar design that has stood the test of time for thousands and thousands of players both amateur and pro alike.
          The internet has a lot to answer for as far as myths and rumors are concerned.

          Still, if you want to build an axe from scratch for the fun of having a project, go for it and enjoy.
          My thoughts exactly. I've had an SG, and gigged the **** out of it. It was a workhorse that thing was.

          But yeah man, looking forward to the build! Rock on!
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            Originally posted by jeremy View Post
            nothing wrong with any of that. of course the more you change it, the less sg like itll sound
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            • #7
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              That is what I'm basically going to do too. I won't change much at all though, just a CRAP LOAD of reinforcement where the headstock meets the neck, a shallower headstock angle, and maybe a really thick neck/area under the truss rod.

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              • #8
                Re: I'm an idiot.

                Just read your other thread...

                Take a look at the mid to upper level ESP/LTD Vipers. They might be ugly to you, but they fit your requirements. At least play one and see what you think.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by gibson175 View Post
                  A real gibson SG is not going to fall apart unless you abuse the hell out of it! lol
                  Its a guitar design that has stood the test of time for thousands and thousands of players both amateur and pro alike.
                  The internet has a lot to answer for as far as myths and rumors are concerned.
                  Oh, I don't know about that. I can't tell you how many times I've seen SG's fall apart on stage; the guy's playing along minding his own business, and all of a sudden there's a big noise and he's holding a handfull of strings and a dangling PU, with a pile of kindling wood at his feet. Happens all the time, man. At festivals, if you go behind the stage, they'll be a mound of miscellaneous SG parts as high as your chin. They just keep tossing them on there, band after band. They know it's going to happen, so they contract a trash removal service to come by on the Monday afterwards and use a bulldozer to load it into a dump truck, I swear to god...
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                    Originally posted by dominus View Post
                    Just read your other thread...

                    Take a look at the mid to upper level ESP/LTD Vipers. They might be ugly to you, but they fit your requirements. At least play one and see what you think.
                    I like you, and you're cool, but no. Those things are hideous. Aside from that I don't jive with ESP necks and their jumbo frets.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by blueman335 View Post
                      Oh, I don't know about that. I can't tell you how many times I've seen SG's fall apart on stage; the guy's playing along minding his own business, and all of a sudden there's a big noise and he's holding a handfull of strings and a dangling PU, with a pile of kindling wood at his feet. Happens all the time, man. At festivals, if you go behind the stage, they'll be a mound of miscellaneous SG parts as high as your chin. They just keep tossing them on there, band after band. They know it's going to happen, so they contract a trash removal service to come by on the Monday afterwards and use a bulldozer to load it into a dump truck, I swear to god...
                      LOL

                      I just want to know that if the guitar accidentally takes a fall or an impact, it's not going to be a write off.

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                      • #12
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                        It's likely that my first neck-through build will be a lot like that, except I won't need the huge neck joint. I'm thinking it will be a sort of tribute to Tony Iommi.
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                        • #13
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                          What is all this about SGs falling apart?
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                          • #14
                            Re: I'm an idiot.

                            Ever try an old Yamaha?

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                              Originally posted by LatsMcGee View Post
                              Ever try an old Yamaha?
                              I still have one - the headstock was professionally re-attached...
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