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Re: Two very different acoustics
Originally posted by AniML View PostI've played neither (yet) but both have my attention. Which would you choose, and why?
Yamaha AC3R - concert-sized sitka/rosewood, cutaway, active electronics $900
Martin 000-15M - all mahogany, no cutaway, no electronics $1300
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...00-15m-natural“For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard
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Re: Two very different acoustics
Originally posted by AniML View PostHome mostly, maybe small gatherings with friends etc.
but if you want a great guitar, and a lot of quality and value, plus features, and you can take it places with worry of nicking it up -I'd go with the Yamaha.“For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard
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I have a Martin 000CE1
And I have owned several Yamaha acoustics
If you don't need the electronics then why pay for them
The Martin is a fine instrument, but so is a stripped down YamahaEHD
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RG2EX1 w/ SD hot-rodded pickups / RG4EXFM1 w/ Carvin S22j/b + FVN middle
SR500 / Martin 000CE-1/Epiphone Hummingbird
Epiphone Florentine with OEM Probuckers
Ehdwuld branded Blue semi hollow custom with JB/Jazz
Reptile Green Gibson Custom Studio / Aqua Dean Shire semi hollow with piezo
Carvin Belair / Laney GC80A Acoustic Amp (a gift from Guitar Player Mag)
GNX3000 (yea I'm a modeler)
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Re: Two very different acoustics
The Martin is the way to go. The 15 series punches way above its weight class. Two things:
-explore other “smaller” acoustic focused dealers, you can get a discount below the MAP price
-get it setup by a good tech/luthier, the action is a mile high from the factory on purpose, get it setup to your liking
I was debating the 15 series when I got my HD-28V, it’s a different tone, but almost as good.
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Originally posted by ehdwuld View PostI have a Martin 000CE1
And I have owned several Yamaha acoustics
If you don't need the electronics then why pay for them
The Martin is a fine instrument, but so is a stripped down Yamaha
The Martin appeals to me as a more traditional instrument and something I have never had anything like before.
If you've tried either or their siblings please chime in.
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For a straight up pure acoustic for the acoustic ness of it all? Martin - not even a question. $1300 is a good price.
If you seek prince/performance/flexibility etc....Yamaha. All day everyday.
Personal advice: You know how we say play Les Pauls, because out of ten one will speak to you? NEVER EVER EVER buy any acoustic without it in your hands and ears. Wood means something, so does construction, and in acoustic it all varies widely.Originally posted by Bad City
He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...
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I say go for the Martin. I find pickups on an acoustic are extremely hit or miss, so if you need to be plugged in, it's better to buy your own aftermarket. I prefer LR Baggs's Anthem (or Anthem SL if you want it $100 cheaper) pickup, it has a microphone and an under saddle pickup, so you can make it sound exactly like your unmic'ed sound, or brighter/darker without feedback.
As was mentioned earlier, the strings are set extremely high from the factory, so if you don't know what you're doing, get a pro to look at it. It's a really simple job that mostly consists of filing the bottom of the bridge and maybe nut, but it's better to pay for someone else to do it than ruin the guitar.You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright
Whilst you can only wonder why
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Originally posted by Aceman View PostFor a straight up pure acoustic for the acoustic ness of it all? Martin - not even a question. $1300 is a good price.
If you seek prince/performance/flexibility etc....Yamaha. All day everyday.
Personal advice: You know how we say play Les Pauls, because out of ten one will speak to you? NEVER EVER EVER buy any acoustic without it in your hands and ears. Wood means something, so does construction, and in acoustic it all varies widely.
Sounded like every other $500 acoustic I had played
But as the wood drys and ages its tone has mellowed
Acoustics have to be "played in"
Sitting in the case for 20 years doesn't make it better
Played for 20 years makes it singEHD
Just here surfing Guitar Pron
RG2EX1 w/ SD hot-rodded pickups / RG4EXFM1 w/ Carvin S22j/b + FVN middle
SR500 / Martin 000CE-1/Epiphone Hummingbird
Epiphone Florentine with OEM Probuckers
Ehdwuld branded Blue semi hollow custom with JB/Jazz
Reptile Green Gibson Custom Studio / Aqua Dean Shire semi hollow with piezo
Carvin Belair / Laney GC80A Acoustic Amp (a gift from Guitar Player Mag)
GNX3000 (yea I'm a modeler)
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So I went and played them both. I liked the Yamaha unplugged, but did not try the electronics. Felt really comfortable. Sounded ok, a little muffled, but maybe the tired factory strings.
The Martin? I fell madly in love instantly. I even tried a few other similar guitars, some same $, some less, but I was ruined. Such a basic looking guitar, but just wow. What a sleeper
It will be mine. It will be mine.
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Originally posted by ehdwuld View PostMy Martin, when brand new was stiff and clangy
Sounded like every other $500 acoustic I had played
But as the wood drys and ages its tone has mellowed
Acoustics have to be "played in"
Sitting in the case for 20 years doesn't make it better
Played for 20 years makes it sing
*The playing cellar is a temperature-humidity controlled area under the Martin factory, where nude Asian virgins with a delicate touch gently play the finest of Martin guitars in a variety of styles, evenly across the fretboard, using a touch so slight as to only generate vibration without fret or finish wear. They are selected prior to the onset of puberty based on the composition of their sweat and tactile sensitivity and motor control testing. This playing cellar, with it's beautiful nude musicians is said to be as close to a tonal and musical Nirvana as can be attained on Earth.Last edited by Aceman; 07-14-2019, 08:12 AM.Originally posted by Bad City
He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...
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Originally posted by Aceman View PostThat's nice, but then shouldn't we only be shopping for those that have been aging in the playing cellar* for a decade?
*The playing cellar is a temperature-humidity controlled area under the Martin factory, where nude Asian virgins with a delicate touch gently play the finest of Martin guitars in a variety of styles, evenly across the fretboard, using a touch so slight as to only generate vibration without fret or finish wear. They are selected prior to the onset of puberty based on the composition of their sweat and tactile sensitivity and motor control testing. This playing cellar, with it's beautiful nude musicians is said to be as close to a tonal and musical Nirvana as can be attained on Earth.
Either or
You knowEHD
Just here surfing Guitar Pron
RG2EX1 w/ SD hot-rodded pickups / RG4EXFM1 w/ Carvin S22j/b + FVN middle
SR500 / Martin 000CE-1/Epiphone Hummingbird
Epiphone Florentine with OEM Probuckers
Ehdwuld branded Blue semi hollow custom with JB/Jazz
Reptile Green Gibson Custom Studio / Aqua Dean Shire semi hollow with piezo
Carvin Belair / Laney GC80A Acoustic Amp (a gift from Guitar Player Mag)
GNX3000 (yea I'm a modeler)
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Re: Two very different acoustics
Originally posted by Aceman View PostThat's nice, but then shouldn't we only be shopping for those that have been aging in the playing cellar* for a decade?
*The playing cellar is a temperature-humidity controlled area under the Martin factory, where nude Asian virgins with a delicate touch gently play the finest of Martin guitars in a variety of styles, evenly across the fretboard, using a touch so slight as to only generate vibration without fret or finish wear. They are selected prior to the onset of puberty based on the composition of their sweat and tactile sensitivity and motor control testing. This playing cellar, with it's beautiful nude musicians is said to be as close to a tonal and musical Nirvana as can be attained on Earth.
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Re: Two very different acoustics
Originally posted by AniML View PostSo I went and played them both. I liked the Yamaha unplugged, but did not try the electronics. Felt really comfortable. Sounded ok, a little muffled, but maybe the tired factory strings.
The Martin? I fell madly in love instantly. I even tried a few other similar guitars, some same $, some less, but I was ruined. Such a basic looking guitar, but just wow. What a sleeper
It will be mine. It will be mine.
I’m telling you, for a pure acoustic guitar the 15 series is awesome.
If you want to amplify the K&K Pure Western or the LR Baggs Aura systems are great. The K&K needs a Preamp though.
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