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  • I'm digging the sound of my Fuzz Face placed AFTER other effects.

    I'm using the FF silicon mini and I've always been fine with it placed after my compressor and my wah. I don't quite understand exactly why the fuzz face has to go first. I like the sound of it placed first, but the sound of it after the wah and comp has more sizzle and harmonics that gets close to an Octavia effect. Is that what I'm hearing?

    Also, the sound of it after the compressor when the compressor is on is cool too. The midrange is boosted and things clear up a lot.

    Just curious because i often read things saying that the Fuzz Face must always be first in the chain. I understand the rule that what sounds good works but I'd like to know why it works for me and maybe who also makes it work.
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  • #2
    Re: I'm digging the sound of my Fuzz Face placed AFTER other effects.

    glad its working for you.
    Personally i find a big difference between running a fuzz face on its own (ie. no other pedals whether true bypass or otherwise) and/or running it before or after other effects.
    If you like how it works in your scenario then enjoy!
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    • #3
      Re: I'm digging the sound of my Fuzz Face placed AFTER other effects.

      Well the way a fuzz pedal is 'meant' to be used is for it's dynamic range. The whole purpose is that you can roll down the volume knob on your guitar and get a slightly fuzzy clean tone, or you can get an overdrive tone with it. The dynamic range on a fuzz is generally significantly more than the dynamic range on a distortion or overdrive pedal, something to do with how the fuzz handles input. They have picky impedance needs to sound 'optimal'.

      Thats why a buffer is generally seen as a bad thing to place before a fuzz pedal, it messes up that input, and takes away the dynamic range. What you end up with is a fuzz on 11 sound, and when you turn it down it's still a fuzz on 10 sound. This is the same reason that most people wouldn't advise high output pickups with a fuzz, you lose that dynamic range that the fuzzes are famous for.

      That being said, the last rule of all tone is that your ears know best in the end. Whatever works for you, works for you, rules aside. All the modulation on my board is in a weird place, most of it is before my dirt pedals, another 'tone faux pas' but I prefer the earthier, more 'vintage' tone.
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      • #4
        Re: I'm digging the sound of my Fuzz Face placed AFTER other effects.

        What kind of wah and compressor?


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        • #5
          Re: I'm digging the sound of my Fuzz Face placed AFTER other effects.

          I've got the Malekko comp and the boss PW10 Vwah.


          Guitar->pedals->amp
          Gear:
          Fender '03 CIJ Antigua Strat
          Epi Dot Natural
          Partscaster blackie
          Breedlove Passport Mahogany
          VOX V845 -> MXR Blue Box -> Boss CS-3 -> MXR Phase 90 -> Paul C. Tim OD -> Fulltone Plimsoul -> Boss CE-3 -> EHX Memory Toy -> SD Deja Vu Delay >
          Marshall Artist 30 4202 or Bugera V5


          I WORK FOR GC, IF YOU NEED A DEAL PM ME!!!

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          • #6
            Re: I'm digging the sound of my Fuzz Face placed AFTER other effects.

            Ok, so you dig having a buffer in front of your fuzz.

            I get the more sizzle statement but for me it ruins the tone and dynamic nature of a nice fuzz.


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            • #7
              Re: I'm digging the sound of my Fuzz Face placed AFTER other effects.

              Haha, yeah it's like a different effect altogether.


              Guitar->pedals->amp
              Gear:
              Fender '03 CIJ Antigua Strat
              Epi Dot Natural
              Partscaster blackie
              Breedlove Passport Mahogany
              VOX V845 -> MXR Blue Box -> Boss CS-3 -> MXR Phase 90 -> Paul C. Tim OD -> Fulltone Plimsoul -> Boss CE-3 -> EHX Memory Toy -> SD Deja Vu Delay >
              Marshall Artist 30 4202 or Bugera V5


              I WORK FOR GC, IF YOU NEED A DEAL PM ME!!!

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