Catalinbread: RAH, Sabbra Cadabra, Katzenkönig

[Flores_68]

Hello,

Is it farfetched to assume that the KK falls somewhere between the RAH and the Sabbra Cadabra? From the descriptions I've read and the YouTube videos I've seen, I kind of made that assumption. I love the early Zep tone but I'm afraid that the RAH will be a one trick pony and I've read some reviews about it being bland. Does anyone have experience with these pedals?

[superpete]

falls between in what sense? it's been a while since i've played a RAH, but i have a SC and i think they are voiced fairly differently.

[CaptainWhizz]

Is the KK the one that’s based on a Rat?

[Flores_68]

falls between in what sense? it's been a while since i've played a RAH, but i have a SC and i think they are voiced fairly differently.

I had the impression that they were all along the overdrive/fuzz territory. So much or You Tube videos...

[superpete]

In terms of actual gain the SC has more than the RAH, because it mimics a treble boost into an overdriven laney amp. not sure where the KK fits in. But tonally they are different.

[Flores_68]

In terms of actual gain the SC has more than the RAH, because it mimics a treble boost into an overdriven laney amp. not sure where the KK fits in. But tonally they are different.

Is the RAH bland?

[Bogner]

Is the RAH bland?

Bland? No but if the sound isn't what you are looking for it won't work...right? The pedals you mention are ranging from Laney to Hiwatt to old Marshall. All different sounds.

What specific tone type are you after? If I know that, I can help with some suggestions to save you some time and minimize the proverbial hoop jumping.

[devastone]

The description pretty much tells you what it is - https://catalinbread.com/products/katzenkonig

[Aceman]

The KK is not rally a RAT, as Rat pedals go. Rat-esque? Some Rat qualities maybe? It is not a Catalinbread Rat

[Flores_68]

Bland? No but if the sound isn't what you are looking for it won't work...right? The pedals you mention are ranging from Laney to Hiwatt to old Marshall. All different sounds.

What specific tone type are you after? If I know that, I can help with some suggestions to save you some time and minimize the proverbial hoop jumping.

I have a few transparent overdrives (ts9, jhs @t, wampler tumnus) and I'm looking for a 'meatier' overdrive, but with a vintage tone. I want it for my Gibson LP, with Seth Lovers. The pedals above are fuller apparently, but I think the SC could be too much.

[Bogner]

Here are a few wonderful pedals. I didn't know budget so I didn't list any outside the average cost range for these types of pedals. Check these out and if a certain flavor attracts your ears I can suggest more that are similar to your desired type. Good luck!

Carl Martin Plexi-Ranger
Friedman Smallbox Pedal
Friedman Dirty Shirley
Revv G2
Bogner La Grange

[Flores_68]

Here are a few wonderful pedals. I didn't know budget so I didn't list any outside the average cost range for these types of pedals. Check these out and if a certain flavor attracts your ears I can suggest more that are similar to your desired type. Good luck!

Carl Martin Plexi-Ranger
Friedman Smallbox Pedal
Friedman Dirty Shirley
Revv G2
Bogner La Grange

Have you tried the Keeley El Rey Dorado?

[Bogner]

Have you tried the Keeley El Rey Dorado?

I have not. For what you said was your interest, the ones I suggested are exceptional.

[CaptainWhizz]

I have a few transparent overdrives (ts9, jhs @t, wampler tumnus) and I'm looking for a 'meatier' overdrive, but with a vintage tone. I want it for my Gibson LP, with Seth Lovers. The pedals above are fuller apparently, but I think the SC could be too much.

I would need to listen to clips of them again, but if you have time to check them out, the Supro Drive pedal and JHS Superbolt are pedals that are aimed at the Supro amp sound in a pedal.

Something like a JHS Charlie Brown or Wampler Plexi? If you Google “amp in a box roundup” there are some great rundowns.

[Francois]

The concept of he KK is Tone Bender + "RAT tail".
A fuzz with the part of a RAT circuit.
I really like the YT demo, but I haven't tried it yet.
It is supposed to eat Rats for breakfast KatzenKönig" is german for "King of cats"

The Sabbra Caddabra aims at replicating the Treble Booster + the Laney amp
If you don't want the one trick pony, their Naga Viper emulates the Treble Booster part only (But I don't know if it is Germanium or not ???)

RAH is Page's rig at Royal Albert Hall and supposed to clean up the same way.