Back to SH-5

[Sly_D]

After messing around and thinking that the CC was my #1 pup, I finally made a major re-swap of my three magnets (A2, A5 and ceramic)... and the original SH-5 with a ceramic magnet is finally my favorite pup.

It's more articulate, more vintage and powerful that the other two Alnico options. I suspect people don't like the SH-5 because they have an issue with the word "ceramic" (I've been one of them). This pick-up is amazing!

I know "ceramic" and "vintage" sound like an oxymoron, yet if I use my ears, the SH-5 is as close as a fat PAF as you can get.

My two cents worth of course

[murkat]

Re: Back to SH-5

Originally posted by Sly_D
After messing around and thinking that the CC was my #1 pup, I finally made a major re-swap of my three magnets (A2, A5 and ceramic)... and the original SH-5 with a ceramic magnet is finally my favorite pup.

It's more articulate, more vintage and powerful that the other two Alnico options. I suspect people don't like the SH-5 because they have an issue with the word "ceramic" (I've been one of them). This pick-up is amazing!

I know "ceramic" and "vintage" sound like an oxymoron, yet if I use my ears, the SH-5 is as close as a fat PAF as you can get.

My two cents worth of course

Your not alone there Sly.........

[Zerberus]

Yep, I´m in front of you leading the Charge

[Nightburst]

I was pleasantly surprised after putting a ceramic into my '59.
I used to think ceramics weren't for me too. Couldn't be more wrong.
I'll be walking behind you as my gear is lesser

[papersoul]

I have a C-5 now in one of my dean Evos but will soon be getting a Custom because I still need that thick warmth from the mids like the JB......hopefully the Custom will be it!

[WARRENLEELYNCH]

Re: Back to SH-5

Originally posted by Sly_D
After messing around and thinking that the CC was my #1 pup, I finally made a major re-swap of my three magnets (A2, A5 and ceramic)... and the original SH-5 with a ceramic magnet is finally my favorite pup.

It's more articulate, more vintage and powerful that the other two Alnico options. I suspect people don't like the SH-5 because they have an issue with the word "ceramic" (I've been one of them). This pick-up is amazing!

I know "ceramic" and "vintage" sound like an oxymoron, yet if I use my ears, the SH-5 is as close as a fat PAF as you can get.

My two cents worth of course

Hey sly good to hear from another that hears that a ceramic pup can be P.A.F toned
i have tried the CC,C5 and custom many times,and also keep comin back to the ceramic CUSTOM TB-5
what i do to make it the most P.A.Fish,is to set it at 5/32" low E side and 4/32" high E side. this is measuring from the top of the slug pole to the bottom and the string.
this for me makes it very classic paf sounding,but in a much more MUCHO way
I can really hear where seymour got the "PAF on steriods" thing from!

[WARRENLEELYNCH]

Btw,i just have to say it,i found the C5 to have the least P.A.F tone i ever heard
just because it has the pulled back mids and a higher treble and bass does not a make a pup sound P.A.F at all,look at a pup like the steves special by dimarzio, it has a scooped midrange and a bigger bass and treble and aint nobody gonna tell me that one sounds P.A.F either
I still dont agree with the it is a 59b with a bigger bass and output
the 59b is much brighter in the treb, has the right dip in the mids,and has a much more P.A.F quality to it.

[WARRENLEELYNCH]

Originally posted by papersoul
I have a C-5 now in one of my dean Evos but will soon be getting a Custom because I still need that thick warmth from the mids like the JB......hopefully the Custom will be it!

bro if it aint i will send you my left arm

[papersoul]

Re: Re: Back to SH-5

Originally posted by WARRENLEELYNCH
Hey sly good to hear from another that hears that a ceramic pup can be P.A.F toned
i have tried the CC,C5 and custom many times,and also keep comin back to the ceramic CUSTOM TB-5
what i do to make it the most P.A.Fish,is to set it at 5/32" low E side and 4/32" high E side. this is measuring from the top of the slug pole to the bottom and the string.
this for me makes it very classic paf sounding,but in a much more MUCHO way
I can really hear where seymour got the "PAF on steriods" thing from!

5/32" and 4/32" huh......I'll keep that in mind when I finally get the Custom installed...LOL! What did you find when raising the pickup? Did you radius the poles at all?

I need to get a good measuring rule as mine only shows 16's....not 32"s. I couldn't find any in local stores....maybe online.

[WARRENLEELYNCH]

Re: Re: Re: Back to SH-5

Originally posted by papersoul
5/32" and 4/32" huh......I'll keep that in mind when I finally get the Custom installed...LOL! What did you find when raising the pickup? Did you radius the poles at all?

I need to get a good measuring rule as mine only shows 16's....not 32"s. I couldn't find any in local stores....maybe online.

when i set the custom closer she got too UN- P.A.F and became more which is good for some if they seek a more thrashy tone? i play many styles so it was too overkill close and
i used those measurments because
that is where ED vanhalen set his custom when he used one, as well as his pup setting on the music man axe.
I actually just gave it a passing thought at first but said what the hey? why not try it?
so i did and was very happy with the tone of the custom at that distance

[papersoul]

Funny you mentione Ed......ever notice how far the p'up are form the strings on the Wolfgang? I used to own one.

[WARRENLEELYNCH]

Originally posted by papersoul
Funny you mentione Ed......ever notice how far the p'up are form the strings on the Wolfgang? I used to own one.

yeah that is the way he always set his pup
he KNOWS GOOD TONE

[korovamilkdud]

I love the Custom. I don't really think it has more bass than a 59, but it does have a lot more mids. Thing is, it's mids that sound like an extension of the typical mid profile of a PAF. Same proportion of low, mid, and high mids. Just more, more output, more punch. Very cool pup.

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how bright is the Custom, compared to something like the C5, CC, and other hot PAF's?

[MattPete]

Brighter than a CC, not as bright as a C5.

Check out the SD sound clips here:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/website/SDToneWizard/hummer.htm