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  • #46
    Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

    Originally posted by ErikH View Post
    If the tap on one of the coils is enough to cause a dramatic difference in the number of active winds in the pickup, creating a somewhat uneven wind output, then some noise could come in to play.
    how much noise are we talking about? unbearably loud or just a bit of 60 cycle?
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    • #47
      Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

      Originally posted by Mcearlock View Post
      This is an awsome idea, SRS. Or you could go one farther and have a tap for vintage /modern on both coils at once, like a tap on a sc.
      i thought that's how standard tapping worked
      thanks btw
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      • #48
        Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

        Originally posted by super rad ska View Post
        i thought that's how standard tapping worked
        thanks btw
        On a humbucker? Im talking about a true humcanciling hb, like say, a 59 when tapped, and a sh-14 on un tapped. Just to give an example
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        • #49
          Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

          Originally posted by Mcearlock View Post
          On a humbucker? Im talking about a true humcanciling hb, like say, a 59 when tapped, and a sh-14 on un tapped. Just to give an example
          wait, you mean that there isn't already something like that??? well then we need one of these!
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          • #50
            Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

            Originally posted by super rad ska View Post
            wait, you mean that there isn't already something like that??? well then we need one of these!
            Idk, But we need to find out! Maybe i just descibe series/ parallel wiring?
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            2007 Fender Strat (Andrew Robertson Pickups "Black strat set")
            2015/19 Fender fat telecaster
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            • #51
              Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

              Originally posted by Mcearlock View Post
              Idk, But we need to find out! Maybe i just descibe series/ parallel wiring?
              nah, series/parallel just has to do with how the 2 coils are wired to hot in relation to eachother, or somesuch. coiltapping would involve cutting off part of the coil(or coils in the case of a humbucker) to ground. for ex, say you have 8000 winds, with 5000 winds set to be hot constantly and the outer 3000 to be 'tappable'. those would be grounded, and you'd have a weaker coil(or 2) with less output. similar results(less output) with different methods.
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              • #52
                Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                Originally posted by super rad ska View Post
                nah, series/parallel just has to do with how the 2 coils are wired to hot in relation to eachother, or somesuch. coiltapping would involve cutting off part of the coil(or coils in the case of a humbucker) to ground. for ex, say you have 8000 winds, with 5000 winds set to be hot constantly and the outer 3000 to be 'tappable'. those would be grounded, and you'd have a weaker coil(or 2) with less output. similar results(less output) with different methods.
                Right! Parallel is just a hum canciling single coil sound, for all intents.
                I say we need to resarch this tappable hb idea. Prob nothing new, but it seems feasable. Imagine this with reg 4 conductor also. this could be the sh*t!
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                • #53
                  Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                  i wouldn't call it quite single coil sounding in all applications, rather a low output tone without as much balls. but your right, this idea must be exploited(unless it already has) to the full extent(in which case it may already have been)!
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                  • #54
                    Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                    Originally posted by super rad ska View Post
                    i wouldn't call it quite single coil sounding in all applications, rather a low output tone without as much balls. but your right, this idea must be exploited(unless it already has) to the full extent(in which case it may already have been)!
                    I would be interested to hear results (if it has been done) or ideas. I havent wound pickups before, and probably wont, but would be interested in having said version of either pickup (1/2 tapped or full) hb
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                    • #55
                      Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                      Originally posted by super rad ska View Post
                      how much noise are we talking about? unbearably loud or just a bit of 60 cycle?
                      Just a bit of 60 cycle. The more mismatched the coils are, the more you'll hear.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                        well if that's the case, has anybody made tappable humbuckers yet? some 60 cycle doesn't bother me
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                        • #57
                          Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                          So I went and did it - today I ordered a custom made P90 with a coil tap. I can't wait til it gets here and I can try it out.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                            Originally posted by lyongraulty View Post
                            So I went and did it - today I ordered a custom made P90 with a coil tap. I can't wait til it gets here and I can try it out.
                            sweeeeet you've gotta give a review once you get it all settled in
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                            • #59
                              Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                              Originally posted by lyongraulty View Post
                              So I went and did it - today I ordered a custom made P90 with a coil tap. I can't wait til it gets here and I can try it out.
                              And add pictures to that review too, along with soundclips!
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                              • #60
                                Re: Coil split vs coil tap, do you know what they mean?

                                Originally posted by super rad ska View Post
                                yes, your just grounding off part of the windings for both coils, lowering the output.
                                The cut-out coil is not grounded, it's just bypassed. If you shunt the main hot lead to ground, you would short out the entire pickup.
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