New picups for Jackson KE3 Kelly...?

[Mayhem]

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[Zerberus]

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We now return to our regularly scheduled programming....

[Davey]

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well crap.. i found out that there was music convention a day AFTER it ended.. a friend of mine went, told me it was cool, but you couldnt really play anything in the actual meaning.. only unplugged.. they had the new models

and nicko mcbrain was there hadning out small signed drumheads =)

but lets not hijack this thread anymore

[Zerberus]

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musikmesse last month

i thought they're out already.. they got em on the 2004 price list on the jackson website... oh well.. got any idea when they'll be released?

Actually, It was only 2 weeks ago. But I unfortunately didnīt make it....

As far as WHEN theyīre coming: No Idea, so Iīll just say" Theyīre here when theyīre here"

[Davey]

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musikmesse last month

i thought they're out already.. they got em on the 2004 price list on the jackson website... oh well.. got any idea when they'll be released?

[Zerberus]

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Zerb, i thought the JS series was made of alder... whats your take on the new JS30 models (the kelly in peticular) worth it or save the money for something else? (the only thing i regret is that it doesnt have a trem .. ) and the ke3 doesnt have two pots (for a bridge volume/neck volume push-pull setup)

JS1 and JS 20 are Cedro, JS 30 series is alder

I canīt say anything about the new JS-30s (Kelly, Warrior and Rhoads IIRC), because theyīre not on the market yet. How am I supposed to have an opinion on something I canīt have played or heard yet

[Davey]

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Zerb, i thought the JS series was made of alder... whats your take on the new JS30 models (the kelly in peticular) worth it or save the money for something else? (the only thing i regret is that it doesnt have a trem .. ) and the ke3 doesnt have two pots (for a bridge volume/neck volume push-pull setup)

[Mayhem]

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Unholy Black/Death/Thrash/Fusion Metal hails forever Mayhem.
i īm from brazil and my speciallity is Those styles you mentioned.
a thing that all guys here forget to ask you is...
What Bands/Cd do you would like to sound similar or get Near ITS Distortion?
Another thing to be know... What is the tuning on the Jackson you want to swap the pups(pups=pickups)?

Mmm yeah. did not bother with that because I thought no one would know about what I talk about.
I play ugly black metal like Darkthrone, Gorgoroth, Burzum, Mayhem, Immortal, Khold.
Buy saying Trash, I talk about the oldschool stuff like Celtic Frost and Holy Moses. I have also begun playing some Slayer lately.
Saying Deathmetal I talk about old things like Death(scream blood gore), (early)Darkthone, Old Funeral, Morbid. Primitive Death metal. I don't like technical metal.

I don't play a lot of solos, because they are not that important in my vision of metal. But the things I do are slower and melodic, or just a short and fast 80's metal solo.

I play normal tune. got a (licensed)floyd, and all the good Black metal is, or can be played E tuned(acording to tabs and what I learn from lisening). Im an E man...


My amp is brighter than average Marhsall I think. maybe thats because I don't use the marhall cabinet? I have a Peavy 4x12 cab from the 70's, but the elements is changed since then. It's supposed to be better than Marhall.
I use a Bass amp actualy, because the best sound comes from good effects(not the one I have but I think it's better that the one from a marshall top).

I think I can get a Custom Custom in Norway... I'll se what I can get to try at the store.

I don't know who Dave Mustain is, but if he is playing metal and using JB, it should be possbile for me to do it to... The important thing is getting good sound who has the potential to sound metal. It is my playing who is a lot of the importance.
Having a picup named schredd may sound strange to me because I don't schredd at all, but whe hva the Jazz which I am thinking about, and I will not play Jazz at all

What Black metal I like on CD sounds to ugly to be fun to play with

I think I may start with buying the pic up I liked the best after trying it in the store, and see what result I get in my Jackson. If it is good, I will buy a seckond pic up. Good solution with my amount of money at the moment too

All the new tips have helped.
Also desicovered some good taste of metal over in Brazil

[Zerberus]

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...Jackson also uses poplar in some of the cheaper models. A good cheaper alternative to alder IMHO.

Jackson USA Neck thrus were actually ALL Maple-neck/poplar wings (on non custom orders) from 1981 (Original Rhoads) to approx. 1995

I find Poplar a smidge brrighter than alder, and itīs generally a tad heavier, mass AND tone-wise. IMO just as good a wood as Alder

[BornToShred]

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[QUOTE=Zerberus]There are NO plywood Jacksons, nor were there ever any. At least AFAIK (which isnīt much). The JS series are made of Indian Cedro, which is a member of teh mahogany family. 10x better IMO than agathis or chesswood (IbeenHad, BC Rich, occasionally LTD IIRC), I personally even prefer it to basswood as a Guitar wood, but thatīs me.[QUOTE]

Agathis is pretty ****ing horrible, i've heard lots of horror stories about cheap-ass B.C.Riches breaking in half and stuff...
Basswood isn't that great either, the tone is (to my ears) a bit weak and muddy. I own a basswood LTD guitar at the moment.

Jackson also uses poplar in some of the cheaper models. A good cheaper alternative to alder IMHO.

[WITH FULL DISTORTION]

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Unholy Black/Death/Thrash/Fusion Metal hails forever Mayhem.
i īm from brazil and my speciallity is Those styles you mentioned.
a thing that all guys here forget to ask you is...
What Bands/Cd do you would like to sound similar or get Near ITS Distortion?
Another thing to be know... What is the tuning on the Jackson you want to swap the pups(pups=pickups)?

i HAVE a charvel fusion deluxe. the guitar is ****ing awesome... but recently iīve noticed that the floyd rose is detuning oa lot.. and iīm worry about that. Q:/
well......... letīs get back with your topic...
i will suggest 2 companies ...
Dimarzio and seymour duncan.
what solo techniques will you use in the neck?
if you will use 2 hands and/or SWEEPING Arpeggios like moyses kolesne from krisiun, i recommend you to install a one of this 6 options from dimarzio in teh neck : Paf, Paf pro, Paf joe, Humbucker form hell , Fred, Air Norton.
Since your guitar is a bright one, like mine. maybe you will need a little fat pickup like teh paf...... while the paf pro, fred and HFH are a little hot and mid/high pickups(i guess teh paf pro isnt, i never played it in teh neck, only in teh bridge). you must decide that. but keep in min that HFH really destroys it with ditortion. excellent for 2 hands and sweeping techniques. Paf pro too.

For Seymour Duncan Ones... i suggest the following : Duncan Custom bridge, Custom Custom BRIDGE(Maybe in your guitar it will be a little bright, but , since you use marshall amps, i doubt it will be brighty. since i use one in my guitar and , together with a marshall valvestate 60 watts, it is not Bighty, it is crunchy and loud. lots of mids and highs, and moderated Bass. not muddy at all.) or Original Parallel Axis humbucker.

for the neck, SD options.....
Full Shred neck, and Jazz model neck.

for dimarzio bridge options : Super Distortion, PAF PRO(killer sound), Drop Sonic, X2N.
it will get an UNHOLY Sound to yoru guitar
a good balanced tone... good bass, good highs and good midds at all.
if i am wrong, please someone correct me.

Well.. theeīs another option here....
Bill Lawrence L500XL.
this pickups is awesome. the more distortion you dial , the more definition it becomes.
lots of mids and highs, a little less bass if you will use it with low tuned guitars, but with D and e tuned guitars it rules.
Q

****ing haisl and i hope i helped you
it is always a pleasure to help any friend of teh forum,m specially a extreme metal one.
i love coroner , darkthrone, eucharist, morbdi angel, destruction, Ophthalamia, Etc.
black/death/thrash/fusion metal forever guys.
J.P

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Dave Mustaine uses a JB/JB combo in alot of his axes. Mayhem, DD/59 for most metal tones but for death, black, etc., you might try a Invader/Full Shred combo.

[Mayhem]

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I like the sound clips of the JB best...
I think I may try that one.

If i have it in the bridge, will I get bassy enough tone? I do not wan't to sound punk.. I have read that it has bass indeed and good for metal, but I have allso read that it is used in american fat-strats...(May I have a JB in my mexican fat-strat?)



I did not like the invader much... sounded like what I allready have(I have the detonators, cheap copy of invader). Muddy and toneless.

But the soundclips may be missleading. They do not sound like anything I will play.

I think I actualy have the chance to try the picups in the store, in a demo guitar they change the pu's fast and let the customer try. I know they have one in at least one store in my town. An Les Paul loking thing without paint.

[Xeromus]

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I vote for '59 neck and Distortion bridge for what you're playing. It's what I use and it's great.

[aiko1aiko]

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JB/Jazz. Great combo. Ask Seymour himself...or in your case ask Dave Mustaine!