If you have a magnet for a pickup that is too thin - say 1.5mm - could you stack it with another of the same size without damaging the tone of the pickup..?
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Basically no. If you stack them so they attract the magetic field is weakened considerably. Try it, take two mags and stack them, then do the screwdriver test with the magnets stacked and apart, you'll see what I mean.
I think if you could get them crammed in with the poles together that would work, but the magnets would be fighting eachother, possibly degaussing eachother over time.
The spacer mag job does work, the new Bareknuckle Juggernaut has an oversized A5 in the middle with ceramic spacers.
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Originally posted by King IzzO))) View PostI think if you could get them crammed in with the poles together that would work, but the magnets would be fighting eachother, possibly degaussing eachother over time.
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Originally posted by King IzzO))) View PostBasically no. If you stack them so they attract the magetic field is weakened considerably."Completely Conceded Glowing Expert."
"And Blueman, I am pretty sure you've pissed off a lot of people."
"Wait, I know! Blueman and Lew can arm wrestle, and the winner gets to decide if 250K pots sound good or not."
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Originally posted by blueman335 View Post+1. When they're stacked and attracting, their magnetic power mostly goes to each other, and there's not much availabe for the strings. When they're repelling, they degauss each other.
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Originally posted by CloneRanger View PostWhaaaa..? blueman, all your P-90's are degaussing as we speak! If you're right...
Glueing'em together is a bad idea. A lot worse than the P-90 magnetic structure's design.
HTH,Last edited by LtKojak; 10-31-2013, 09:24 PM.
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Originally posted by LtKojak View PostGlueing'em together is a bad idea. A lot worse than the P-90 magnetic structure's design.
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field geometry changes when you put two magnets together.
gluing one to another doesn't make 1 new magnet, it makes two magnets forced into close proximity and yields a magnetic field that has fundamentally different geometry than would be present if you had a single magnet of the same thickness/size.
The only possible exception to that is if you have two magnets placed end to end ie N-S/N-S
THEN it would act like a single magnet.
But placing them on top like this
N-S
S-N
has different geometry
and this
N-S
N-S
also has WAY different geometry and will degauss each of the separate magnets.
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Originally posted by CloneRanger View PostI'm going to have ask you to qualify, Pepe. Gluing two mags together (same size, polarity, charge) is just making one mag out of two. I've been mucking with p'ups for better than 35 yrs. Prove me a dummy, please.
HTH,
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Originally posted by CTN View Postfield geometry changes when you put two magnets together.
gluing one to another doesn't make 1 new magnet, it makes two magnets forced into close proximity and yields a magnetic field that has fundamentally different geometry than would be present if you had a single magnet of the same thickness/size.
The only possible exception to that is if you have two magnets placed end to end ie N-S/N-S
THEN it would act like a single magnet.
But placing them on top like this
N-S
S-N
has different geometry
and this
N-S
N-S
also has WAY different geometry and will degauss each of the separate magnets.
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Originally posted by CloneRanger View PostWhaaaa..? blueman, all your P-90's are degaussing as we speak! If you're right..."Completely Conceded Glowing Expert."
"And Blueman, I am pretty sure you've pissed off a lot of people."
"Wait, I know! Blueman and Lew can arm wrestle, and the winner gets to decide if 250K pots sound good or not."
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Originally posted by King IzzO))) View PostBasically no. If you stack them so they attract the magetic field is weakened considerably. Try it, take two mags and stack them, then do the screwdriver test with the magnets stacked and apart, you'll see what I mean.
I think if you could get them crammed in with the poles together that would work, but the magnets would be fighting eachother, possibly degaussing eachother over time.
The spacer mag job does work, the new Bareknuckle Juggernaut has an oversized A5 in the middle with ceramic spacers.
I don't know how easy neodymium is to cut - which, brings it's own set of problems - might that be an option..?Anything is possible, just not always advisable...
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I'm confused, but then I'm not that well versed in pickup construction. Doesn't a pickup magnet have one pole on top and the other on the bottom?
___N___
|______|
.....S
So the stacking them would be like what CTN referred to as end to end?
___N___
|______|
.... S
___N___
|______|
.....S
This is how the Neo magnet is that I got for a Jaguar SS Bass. I haven't used it yet, but a lot of people have reported that putting this magnet on top of the weak J pickup on the bass improves it considerably, which is actually stacking the magnets, is it not? Don't know how it affects the tone, but it's done to increase the output.
edit: The editor messed up the labeling so ignore the dots to the left of the S'sLast edited by Demina; 11-01-2013, 08:33 AM."It's a dog eat dog world out there and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear." - Norm Peterson
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