5 way super switch wiring help..

[Igornopolis]

Hello.

I'm trying to wire my custom 24 se with a 5 way super switch and I found this one wiring schematic out of many combos that I actually wanted to use. Well, 4 out of 5 positions I wanted.. schematic is for bridge series, bridge split inner slug coil, both single colils (inner?), outer screw coil neck and series neck.
1 volume 1 tone. Now I only want to change second position from bridge slug split to bridge parallel.
Is this possible and which wires should I re-arrange to achieve this.
I would really, really appreciate any help.

 

[BriGuy1968]

5 way super switch wiring help..

Hi Igornopolis, and welcome to the forum!

I went ahead and made you a diagram based on the one you showed with position 2 being Bridge parallel instead of bridge split. Just so you're aware, the original diagram is not inner coils for position 3, but rather "upper" coils (inner bridge & outer neck). This puts the bridge North coil with the neck South coil (magnetically, not like looking at a map), thus making position 3 hum-canceling. I did the same thing in this diagram.

Also, just as in the diagram you provided, I used Seymour Duncan pickups for the color coding. If your pups AREN'T S-Ds, then you may need to find out which color wires are North Start, North Finish, South Finish, and South Start for your pickups.

Let me know if you have any questions, and ESPECIALLY let us know how your project comes out! [emoji2][emoji1303]


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[Igornopolis]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Hi Igornopolis, and welcome to the forum!

I went ahead and made you a diagram based on the one you showed with position 2 being Bridge parallel instead of bridge split. Just so you're aware, the original diagram is not inner coils for position 3, but rather "upper" coils (inner bridge & outer neck). This puts the bridge North coil with the neck South coil (magnetically, not like looking at a map), thus making position 3 hum-canceling. I did the same thing in this diagram.

Also, just as in the diagram you provided, I used Seymour Duncan pickups for the color coding. If your pups AREN'T S-Ds, then you may need to find out which color wires are North Start, North Finish, South Finish, and South Start for your pickups.

Let me know if you have any questions, and ESPECIALLY let us know how your project comes out! [emoji2][emoji1303]


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Oh wowww... thanks so much good sir!!! Briguy, you are awesome I constantly read this forum, for years now actually and I see a lot of your posts and other vets on the forum and you guys are insightfull and passionate bunch of guys! A custom diagram for me ))))

Anyhow, I've got a new suhr thornbucker neck and mojotone sledgehammer in the bridge which use duncan colors. I have them wired with duncan triple shots now but one of the rings went bad and I really wanted to simplify on fly switching with a 5 way. I find parallel much more usable with a high output hum in the bridge even though the sledgehammer fails to impress in either single coil mode or parallel. My BG Hellabucker in my prs Tremonti with Duncan triple shots on the other hand is incredible with a slug coil or parallel but just ok in series unlike the Mojotone which is a special bucker with high gain full on series.
For the neck, in a 24 fret guitar, I find split coil to north/screw to be very strat like and beautiful for cleans, at least with buckers like Suhr ssv, Duncan jazz, Manlius landmark for example. 22 fretters to slug coil for similar effect. I'm just babbling now...
I am glad to hear that position 3 will be hum canceling with north coils on
Thank you sir!!!!!!!!!!!! A million!!!!! I will report with results.

 

[Igornopolis]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Hey Brian, I got a follow up question before I get soldering tonight..

So Mojotone uses the same color scheme as Duncan but the south/north polarity looks to be different. I've attached an image. Im a bit confused because Mojotone follows the same pattern with white/red taped off, green to ground, black is hot but it's different as far as polarity goes. And I dont know if "polarity" is the right term but you probably know what I mean. So do I just follow the north/south color scheme the way your diagram shows and just flip the colors accordingly? I wouldnt want to end up with the thincan sound in what should already be thin and quacky third position.
I do appreciate your time

 

[BriGuy1968]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Hey Brian, I got a follow up question before I get soldering tonight..

So Mojotone uses the same color scheme as Duncan but the south/north polarity looks to be different. I've attached an image. Im a bit confused because Mojotone follows the same pattern with white/red taped off, green to ground, black is hot but it's different as far as polarity goes. And I dont know if "polarity" is the right term but you probably know what I mean. So do I just follow the north/south color scheme the way your diagram shows and just flip the colors accordingly? I wouldnt want to end up with the thincan sound in what should already be thin and quacky third position.
I do appreciate your time

Still use the colors from the diagram. This is a case of the orientation changing instead of polarity. The polarity is the most important part when it comes to making the two pickups hum-canceling. However, now the North coil will be on the bottom (outside) in the bridge rather than the top (inside). Probably won't make a huge difference, but if you want it to go back to the way it shows on my diagram, just flip the pickup around when installing it, thus changing the orientation.


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[Igornopolis]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

I got it now. Thank you!!!

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Brian, Are you sure your diagram is correct? It looks like the bridge pup is split in switch position #2. Unless the red wire from the bridge pup is connected to lug #4 on the lower left bank of switch lugs...I can't tell for sure from your diagram if the red wire is just passing over that lug or actually connected to it on its way to lug #5 of the upper right bank. If it's connected, it's correct.

 

[BriGuy1968]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Brian, Are you sure your diagram is correct? It looks like the bridge pup is split in switch position #2. Unless the red wire from the bridge pup is connected to lug #4 on the lower left bank of switch lugs...I can't tell for sure from your diagram if the red wire is just passing over that lug or actually connected to it on its way to lug #5 of the upper right bank. If it's connected, it's correct.

I'm at work right now, so kind of hard to double-check, but I'll be sure to look tonight after work. Thanks!


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[BriGuy1968]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Brian, Are you sure your diagram is correct? It looks like the bridge pup is split in switch position #2. Unless the red wire from the bridge pup is connected to lug #4 on the lower left bank of switch lugs...I can't tell for sure from your diagram if the red wire is just passing over that lug or actually connected to it on its way to lug #5 of the upper right bank. If it's connected, it's correct.

It IS connected to #4, not just passing over it... but I can see what you mean about how it looks like it isn't. I'll have to be sure to make stuff like that more apparent on future diagrams.

Still... thanks for checking my work! It's NEVER a bad thing to have another set of eyes take a peek... especially when they're attached to a brain that has your experience! :cool2:

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

I totally agree. So many times I get stuck knocking my head against a wall when all it took was a different pair of eyes to point out the obvious mistake I made. Like you, I'm always appreciative of being "corrected" if I have made a mistake.

But in this case, it appears that you didn't make a mistake. I was just needing some clarification on your work. Great diagram.

Thanks, you make a lot of very good contributions to this forum.

 

[Igornopolis]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

This is the exact question I was about to post regarding the contact on B4 junction and I refreshed the page and saw the replies. I am all clear now. Finally got the time to solder things up. Thanks guys!!

 

[Will S-T]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

This is what makes this place the most informative and generouse guitar forum out there.

Kudos to BG and GD and all the other folks that contribute. I learn something every day.

Muchas gracias, Will

 

[Igornopolis]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

All done. Try to ignore those savage looking solder joints.... They always hold their own though so I must be doing something right. Thanks again for all the help Brian. No way I would figure this out on my own as my comprehension of this stuff is still very cloudy. This forum is badass.

 

[BriGuy1968]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

SWEET! How's it sound?

 

[Igornopolis]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Sounds great! Exactly what I intended

 

[Igornopolis]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Hey Brian, I got a quick f/u question. Just yesterday I actually bothered to tap the coils with a screwdriver to see which ones were on while split and realised that the neck inner slug coil was on in position 4. Now, I thought that the Suhr pickups had the exact same orientation and color codes as Duncan and I've check various diagrams and boards which confirmed this. Maybe the new line of Thornbuckers does not?
I love the sound but I really wanted to try the screw coil as I could use a bit more body in position 4.
So which wires should I change around assuming ground and hot are the same as duncan? Thanks for your time again.

 

[BriGuy1968]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Hey Brian, I got a quick f/u question. Just yesterday I actually bothered to tap the coils with a screwdriver to see which ones were on while split and realised that the neck inner slug coil was on in position 4. Now, I thought that the Suhr pickups had the exact same orientation and color codes as Duncan and I've check various diagrams and boards which confirmed this. Maybe the new line of Thornbuckers does not?
I love the sound but I really wanted to try the screw coil as I could use a bit more body in position 4.
So which wires should I change around assuming ground and hot are the same as duncan? Thanks for your time again.

If you just want the active coil to be in the other position, just flip the pickup around. In my opinion you won't hear enough difference between the screw coil and the slug coil to make a difference.

I'm driving right now, so if you really want the screw coil, I will have to probably do it tomorrow morning.


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[BriGuy1968]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

I was just looking more closely at the diagram I gave you before, and it will definitely take a little more than just moving a couple of wires to get you the screw coil in the neck. Do you know what you want to do yet? Also, if you decide you want to re-wire, perhaps you could let me know the orientation of the pickups as they sit right now... like whether the screw coil is on top or bottom (both neck and bridge) and which coils were active when you tapped on them for the bridge. It will help me to understand the big picture. If we just switch the neck pickup to run the screw coil, then you will lose hum-canceling in the center position.

 

[Igornopolis]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Its ok Brian, I borrowed that particular guitar to my friend for a couple of gigs. I dont think its gonna make much difference as you said. If it sounds good.. you know what they say. You are the best!

 

[smsuperstrat73]

Re: 5 way super switch wiring help..

Hi Igornopolis, and welcome to the forum!

I went ahead and made you a diagram based on the one you showed with position 2 being Bridge parallel instead of bridge split. Just so you're aware, the original diagram is not inner coils for position 3, but rather "upper" coils (inner bridge & outer neck). This puts the bridge North coil with the neck South coil (magnetically, not like looking at a map), thus making position 3 hum-canceling. I did the same thing in this diagram.

Also, just as in the diagram you provided, I used Seymour Duncan pickups for the color coding. If your pups AREN'T S-Ds, then you may need to find out which color wires are North Start, North Finish, South Finish, and South Start for your pickups.

Let me know if you have any questions, and ESPECIALLY let us know how your project comes out! [emoji2][emoji1303]


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Wow I've been scouring forums and both Duncan and Dimarzio's diagram areas to find a 5 way for my SE Custome 24. This is the closest to what I was after, how cool! My question is; I want to run a resistor on the cut coils to bleed some back in so the coil is not so weak. Would I put the resistors on #3 and #4 on the C section separately to ground to achieve this? Thanks for any help on this.