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  • P90-S-P90 wiring suggestions

    Picked up a new set of P90 Phat Cats, and will be replacing bridge and neck humbuckers in a super strat with HSH configuration.

    Existing configuration is 1 volume and 1 tone, and 5-position Fender super switch (1=Bridge, 2=Bridge Tap + Middle, 3= bridge tap + neck tap, 4=middle + neck tap, 5=neck). Can replace super switch with standard Fender 5 position switch. Not possible to add a standalone toggle, but open to replacing either pot with push-pull.

    New hardware will be: Bridge pup is P90, Neck pup is P90 (RWRP), Middle pup is SD Custom Flat Strat SSL-6 Single-Coil.

    First thought on configuration is 1=Bridge, 2=Bridge+Neck, 3=Neck, 4=Bridge+Mid 5=Mid+Neck.

    Looking for help on wiring diagram, and any other recommendations on switch/pickup configurations.

    Thanks!


  • #2
    With your config essentially going to be changed into something like an SSS config, there's no real need for a push-pull/toggle unless you have plans to run some config in series.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nsiegel27 View Post
      First thought on configuration is 1=Bridge, 2=Bridge+Neck, 3=Neck, 4=Bridge+Mid 5=Mid+Neck.
      If you're thinking of doing that, I think I'd approach it like this: Use a standard 3-way for the N/B, and then use a push-pull to add the middle at any time. That would allow the "all 3" combination, which could be cool.

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      • #4
        If you want those five basic combinations, standard Strat as it happens, then a regular 5-way blade will do fine. Just follow standard Strat wiring diagrams.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ThreeChordWonder View Post
          If you want those five basic combinations, standard Strat as it happens, then a regular 5-way blade will do fine. Just follow standard Strat wiring diagrams.
          But he did mention that he wanted the "both P-90", (N/B), combo. Standard Strat 5-way won't do that. Strat, with blend pot, would, however.

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          • #6
            I think there is a Megaswitch that can do that combo in the middle position.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by ArtieToo View Post

              But he did mention that he wanted the "both P-90", (N/B), combo. Standard Strat 5-way won't do that. Strat, with blend pot, would, however.
              OP said:

              First thought on configuration is 1=Bridge, 2=Bridge+Neck, 3=Neck, 4=Bridge+Mid 5=Mid+Neck.

              So yeah, my bad. But if he swaps the middle and neck connections over he'll get:

              P1 bridge
              P2 bridge plus neck
              P3 neck
              P4 neck plus middle
              P5 middle

              Otherwise, yes, it's a five-way superswitch or a blender or a push-pull to activate the middle.


              Last edited by ThreeChordWonder; 02-24-2022, 12:31 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ThreeChordWonder View Post

                OP said:

                First thought on configuration is 1=Bridge, 2=Bridge+Neck, 3=Neck, 4=Bridge+Mid 5=Mid+Neck.

                So yeah, my bad. But if he swaps the middle and neck connections over he'll get:

                P1 bridge
                P2 bridge plus neck
                P3 neck
                P4 neck plus middle
                P5 middle

                Otherwise, yes, it's a five-way superswitch or a blender or a push-pull to activate the middle.

                Yup. That works.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for suggestions.

                  Not sure I fully understand how to add the middle pup with push-pull and three way switch... Haven't found a wiring diagram for this (at least not yet).

                  So, leaning heavily to 5-way switch since it gets N/B.

                  P1 bridge
                  P2 bridge plus neck
                  P3 neck
                  P4 neck plus middle
                  P5 middle

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by nsiegel27 View Post
                    Thanks for suggestions.

                    Not sure I fully understand how to add the middle pup with push-pull and three way switch... Haven't found a wiring diagram for this (at least not yet).

                    So, leaning heavily to 5-way switch since it gets N/B.

                    P1 bridge
                    P2 bridge plus neck
                    P3 neck
                    P4 neck plus middle
                    P5 middle
                    To do that, just use any standard Stratocaster wiring diagram, but flip the connections of the neck & middle pups on the 5-way.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the reply; no issues swapping neck and middle pups on 5-way.

                      I'm not clear on how wire the push-pull to add middle pickup for 3-way switch set up as B, B+N, N.

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                      • #12
                        Like this. The middle pup "hot" wire goes to the middle lug. The upper lug simply goes to the "output" lug of the 3-way, or to the input of the volume pot. They're both the same connection. The 3-way would be wired like a Telecaster but with the neck and bridge wired as the two pups of a Tele.

                        Make sense? If not, I can do the full monty tomorrow.

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                        • #13
                          Easy peasy.... 2 Lindy Fralin P90's on each side of a rw/rp Dimarzio SDS-1,, Master Tone w/.007 cap, Master Volume, & the middle control is a lovely blender pot (CTS EP4185/6),, & it's the final pickguard in my beloved Strat with '63/64 all original neck...
                          The real hoot is a left volume knob to properly display where the reverse taper blender is~ AND, it quacks!! Do it!!
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                          • #14
                            I have SSS tele with standard 3 way switch and additions: push pulled vol pot to blend middle pickup to any switch position and push pulled tone pot for middle pickup only. But strat has 3 knobs/pots. You can use one as a blender. I've been wondering about Phat Cat set with middle pickup myself, albeit Twangbanger.

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