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  • #16
    Originally posted by Demanic View Post
    I wonder how a Jazz n would sound with an A4 in it?


    “Tonal Viagra” is how I described it about a decade ago. I had a stock JazzN in a mahogany slab: it was floppy, weak, and shapeless, and the A4 stiffened it (albeit a bit too much; “tonal priapism,” perhaps?). These days, I prefer A3 for a little chime and a bit more off the bottom.
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    • #17
      re: my comment about an A2 Jazz N:

      Originally posted by ToneFiddler View Post
      if not everything. it‘s the same coils.
      Hunh, no kidding? I could've sworn one of the Duncan reps wrote in the forum that it wasn't so... but that was a very long time ago. Cool.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by jafo View Post
        re: my comment about an A2 Jazz N:



        Hunh, no kidding? I could've sworn one of the Duncan reps wrote in the forum that it wasn't so... but that was a very long time ago. Cool.
        A2P and Jazz use the exact same coils; it's the JB vs Distortion that's been the subject of much debate.
        Some firmly believe them to be identical winds, but insiders have said they aren't. Same DCR, but not the same wind pattern.
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        • #19
          I think the OP is talking more about tightness.
          Tightest to loosest I'd probably say: JazzN-Demon-59N-WLHn-PGn-A2Pn
          Can't speak to the Sentient, never owned or even used one.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by eclecticsynergy View Post
            I think the OP is talking more about tightness.
            Tightest to loosest I'd probably say: JazzN-Demon-59N-WLHn-PGn-A2Pn
            Can't speak to the Sentient, never owned or even used one.
            Sentient could be on either side of the Jazz above. It is pretty tight.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Demanic View Post
              I have one of those in the neck of my Blackjack. Wired to a five way that splits it in the 4th position. I think that it sounds more vintage than the stock version. I put a polished A4 in mine, no cover. It's bright and powerful with slightly more mids and not as boomy in the low end.
              The Blackjack has a lot of natural lows, so the stock 59n just overdid them.

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              My Blackjack V came with one in the neck with a coil split and I haven’t touched it. The middle position with the coils split pairs it with the inner coil of whatever I put in the bridge which makes for beautiful cleans.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by ToneFiddler View Post
                ^^sorry, maybe i am using the wrong term.

                i am taking about the attack. it’s not super immediate. it sounds kind of squishy. especially on the lower frets up until about the 9th fret. maybe HONK is what i mean???

                never experienced this with single coils…

                this clip has has that quality all over it:
                https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_con...ture=emb_title
                it‘s kind of a very woody but loose attack and sound.
                typical old school les paul.
                which pickups have less of it. which pickups have more
                To those accustomed to singlecoils, any humbucker is going feel a bit squishy on the attack. Some less than others, of course.

                It's because a in a humbucker the magnet is flat underneath the coils, so its field is weaker, wider and more diffuse.
                Typical singles use vertical rod magnets; the mags are right near the strings and their field is both powerful and focused.
                Such pickups sense a relatively narrow section of string compared to a humbucker's twin coils and dual rows of poles.
                That gives the attack transient a more immediate character.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Demanic View Post
                  I have one of those in the neck of my Blackjack. Wired to a five way that splits it in the 4th position. I think that it sounds more vintage than the stock version. I put a polished A4 in mine, no cover. It's bright and powerful with slightly more mids and not as boomy in the low end.
                  The Blackjack has a lot of natural lows, so the stock 59n just overdid them.

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                  sounds good.
                  will try it someday. A lot of guys are raving about them on here...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by eclecticsynergy View Post
                    I think the OP is talking more about tightness.
                    Tightest to loosest I'd probably say: JazzN-Demon-59N-WLHn-PGn-A2Pn
                    Can't speak to the Sentient, never owned or even used one.
                    you're probably right!
                    Thanks for the ranking. i only have noteworthy experience with the 59 and demon in the neck.
                    There is quite a gap between the two.
                    I only have experience with the PGb and not the Neck. would have guessed that the Neck would be tighter...


                    gonna try the jazz with the demonBridge next and maybe an A2P, PGn or seth in the other
                    Last edited by ToneFiddler; 08-11-2022, 02:43 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mincer View Post

                      Sentient could be on either side of the Jazz above. It is pretty tight.
                      I've heard the Sentient described as the middle ground between a Jazz and a 59, or as a Jazz with the fat trimmed off. The latter description resonates with my experience of the Sentient. It is extremely articulate.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by eclecticsynergy View Post

                        To those accustomed to singlecoils, any humbucker is going feel a bit squishy on the attack. Some less than others, of course.

                        It's because a in a humbucker the magnet is flat underneath the coils, so its field is weaker, wider and more diffuse.
                        Typical singles use vertical rod magnets; the mags are right near the strings and their field is both powerful and focused.
                        Such pickups sense a relatively narrow section of string compared to a humbucker's twin coils and dual rows of poles.
                        That gives the attack transient a more immediate character.
                        Thanks, for the explanation.
                        well i almost played exclusively single coil and Filtertron necks for the last month.
                        The 59n felt a little off, but i also do like the loose and smooth feel from time to time...
                        But the tightness of the SH-12 in the bridge and the 59 don't really match.
                        Got another LP with a set of 59s. This one i normally like, but i play mostly classic stuff with it. Would even go more loose with this one.

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                        • #27
                          I would put the D-Activator neck at the opposite end from "squishy" on the scale. Part of why I love it.

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