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  • #31
    Whoa, ok, so I read the older Dimebucker coil splitting thread here and it seems pretty tempting! https://forum.seymourduncan.com/foru...od-coil-tapped

    Maybe too hot as a humbucker. Probably going off the deep end here but what about a Custom/Dimebucker hybrid in the bridge with a Custom/59 in the neck?

    Also, I assume y'all split to the inner coil of the bridge pickup for your Tele tones or is there a case for splitting to the outer bridge coil instead?

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    • #32
      Splitting to the inner coil will give you a bigger sound than the outer coil of a bridge pup. The outer coil usually sounds too thin and tinny and weak.
      Originally Posted by IanBallard
      Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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      • #33
        on my RG2 with JB/Jazz and Triple shot rings and five way super switch

        I can split the JB and use it in series with the Jazz and get a very TELE like sound
        EHD
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        • #34
          Originally posted by ehdwuld View Post
          on my RG2 with JB/Jazz and Triple shot rings and five way super switch

          I can split the JB and use it in series with the Jazz and get a very TELE like sound
          OK, that's good. Great. And that answers the OP's original question..."Straight forward question: which humbucker sounds the most like a Tele bridge pickup when you split it?"...how?
          Originally Posted by IanBallard
          Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by sumitagarwal View Post
            Whoa, ok, so I read the older Dimebucker coil splitting thread here and it seems pretty tempting! https://forum.seymourduncan.com/foru...od-coil-tapped

            Maybe too hot as a humbucker. Probably going off the deep end here but what about a Custom/Dimebucker hybrid in the bridge with a Custom/59 in the neck?

            Also, I assume y'all split to the inner coil of the bridge pickup for your Tele tones or is there a case for splitting to the outer bridge coil instead?
            I have a split Dimebucker and while it is awesome I would not describe it as a Tele on steroids as they did, and it is not stratty. It is its own very cool thing. It is very thick and tight with that articulation a single provides, but in no way would you hear it and think it was any type of single coil pickup.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GuitarDoc View Post

              OK, that's good. Great. And that answers the OP's original question..."Straight forward question: which humbucker sounds the most like a Tele bridge pickup when you split it?"...how?
              Are you being sarcastic or....
              i respect your opinion, but sometimes i cant tell if you are messing with me or not
              EHD
              Just here surfing Guitar Pron
              RG2EX1 w/ SD hot-rodded pickups / RG4EXFM1 w/ Carvin S22j/b + FVN middle
              SR500 / Martin 000CE-1/Epiphone Hummingbird
              Epiphone Florentine with OEM Probuckers
              Ehdwuld branded Blue semi hollow custom with JB/Jazz
              Reptile Green Gibson Custom Studio / Aqua Dean Shire semi hollow with piezo
              Carvin Belair / Laney GC80A Acoustic Amp (a gift from Guitar Player Mag)
              GNX3000 (yea I'm a modeler)

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ehdwuld View Post

                Are you being sarcastic or....
                i respect your opinion, but sometimes i cant tell if you are messing with me or not
                I think he's pointing out that your solution involves multiple pickups, while the OP was asking what single individual pickup can sound Tele-like when split by itself.

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                • #38
                  Sarcastic
                  gotcha

                  EHD
                  Just here surfing Guitar Pron
                  RG2EX1 w/ SD hot-rodded pickups / RG4EXFM1 w/ Carvin S22j/b + FVN middle
                  SR500 / Martin 000CE-1/Epiphone Hummingbird
                  Epiphone Florentine with OEM Probuckers
                  Ehdwuld branded Blue semi hollow custom with JB/Jazz
                  Reptile Green Gibson Custom Studio / Aqua Dean Shire semi hollow with piezo
                  Carvin Belair / Laney GC80A Acoustic Amp (a gift from Guitar Player Mag)
                  GNX3000 (yea I'm a modeler)

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                  • #39
                    Might not exactly be the question I was asking, but still an interesting exploration of what it means to have a Tele-like sound. Doesn't bother me

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                    • #40
                      Thank you
                      its the closest i could come to your request
                      EHD
                      Just here surfing Guitar Pron
                      RG2EX1 w/ SD hot-rodded pickups / RG4EXFM1 w/ Carvin S22j/b + FVN middle
                      SR500 / Martin 000CE-1/Epiphone Hummingbird
                      Epiphone Florentine with OEM Probuckers
                      Ehdwuld branded Blue semi hollow custom with JB/Jazz
                      Reptile Green Gibson Custom Studio / Aqua Dean Shire semi hollow with piezo
                      Carvin Belair / Laney GC80A Acoustic Amp (a gift from Guitar Player Mag)
                      GNX3000 (yea I'm a modeler)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by sumitagarwal View Post
                        Whoa, ok, so I read the older Dimebucker coil splitting thread here and it seems pretty tempting! https://forum.seymourduncan.com/foru...od-coil-tapped

                        Maybe too hot as a humbucker. Probably going off the deep end here but what about a Custom/Dimebucker hybrid in the bridge with a Custom/59 in the neck?

                        Also, I assume y'all split to the inner coil of the bridge pickup for your Tele tones or is there a case for splitting to the outer bridge coil instead?
                        My own experience with the Dimebucker is explained in the topic that you evoke above: it delivers a nice convincing Fendery sound when wired in parallel - but rather Stratty than Tely.
                        Pretty logical: it has a high inductance in series, giving it the right Strat single coil alike inductance in parallel. It has also a high Q factor, just like Strat single coils, thx to its specific design - but this high Q factor and the absence of Foucault currents with this model wouldn't necessarily be the best way to Tele tones once the PU split.

                        Custom/59 in the neck? Should sound too woofy in most cases IMHO (unless mounted in a 24 frets guitar with not much resonant wood). My friend winder did put several years of researches in a high inductance model able to sound right in series or split in a "standard" neck position (like in 22 frets guitars) and it's not easy to achieve at all. That's why the usual advice for that is to use a lower inductance HB (SH2 Jazz, etc.) .

                        Regarding hybrids: unless you go Custom shop, it's not possible to do that with a Dimebucker... it's built like Bill Lawrence L500 models , whose coils are glued/epoxied in a plastic housing, without baseplate.

                        On inner or outer coils for split: depends on the pickups and guitar IME and IMHO... if I had no lab gear at disposal to test pickups, I'd just try, listen and decide on this basis.

                        Do what you want and be happy.
                        Last edited by freefrog; 02-17-2024, 12:26 AM.
                        Duncan user since the 80's...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Securb View Post

                          I have a split Dimebucker and while it is awesome I would not describe it as a Tele on steroids as they did, and it is not stratty. It is its own very cool thing. It is very thick and tight with that articulation a single provides, but in no way would you hear it and think it was any type of single coil pickup.
                          That's almost exactly how I'd describe a Distortion split. Great sound, but not like anything else.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ehdwuld View Post

                            Are you being sarcastic or....
                            i respect your opinion, but sometimes i cant tell if you are messing with me or not
                            Yeah, a little sarcastic. Messin' with ya. Like Beau said, I was pointing out that the OP wanted to know one pup that sounded like a Tele when split...not a combination of pups.
                            But it's all good and that was also some fine info you provided.
                            Just so you know, I generally value your opinions and contributions.
                            Originally Posted by IanBallard
                            Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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                            • #44
                              With the recommendations of blade-based humbuckers (SD Dime, Bill Lawrence), I was wondering if there were any opinions on the DiMarzio models that have one blade and one pole piece bobbin (Crunch Lab, D Sonic, Megadrive). I'm thinking I could split to the blade bobbin for the Tele type sound while in series it might sound slightly more traditional than a dual blade.

                              Also I'm currently planning out an HSS and I'm also thinking about putting a DiMarzio Area in the neck or middle (or both) and wiring one of the noise cancelling bottom coils to provide noise cancelling when running the bridge pickup split.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by beaubrummels View Post
                                Not split, but a Custom Custom in parallel sounds like a Tele bridge.
                                Apologies to the OP for veering off topic, but that's great info. I'm trying to finalize what I want in the bridge of my Nashville, (Brent Mason), Tele, and I have a CC laying around here somewhere. I think you made up my mind for me.

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