Hi all. In the last 2 months I have been working on developing some legato technique as I have used mostly speed picking but have found I really like the sound of fast legato playing. What I asking is; I am using a 2 note per string whole tone run across all 6 strings, when I pick each starting note on each successive string should I be playing downstrokes only as I ascend and upstrokes only as I descend or should I use alternate picking to sound each picked note as I play across the strings. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Re: About Legato technique.
First play the piece without legato using strict alternating picking. Once you have that down comfortably, add in the legato but keep your pick strokes the same. This way you can switch more easily between fast legato and fast picked runs.
For example you might go from:
Up - Down - Up - Down - Up - Down
to
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Re: About Legato technique.
For me, it would depend on if its on the beat or not.
If you're using steady 8th notes, I would down pick everything that's on the beat, regardless of ascending or descending riffs. If you're starting on the up beats, pick every upbeat up.
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Originally posted by Warheart View PostFor me, it would depend on if its on the beat or not.
If you're using steady 8th notes, I would down pick everything that's on the beat, regardless of ascending or descending riffs. If you're starting on the up beats, pick every upbeat up.Guitars:EJ Strat, PRS SE Bernie Marsden (with Bare Knuckle Mules), PRS SE Custom 24 Floyd (with Joe Satriani set) PRS SE Zach Myers (Totally Customized for me with Dimarzio Air Classics),Carvin CS6, Gretsch 5422, Taylor 612 ce. Amp:Limited Edition Blues Junior (W/ Eminence Canibis-Rex Speaker ). Effects: Fulltone Full-drive Mosfet 2, Strymon Timeline, TC Electronic Vortex Flanger, Golden Cello Distortion Pedal.
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Originally posted by jalguitarman View PostWhat about 16th notes?
Most of the time when you're doing gallop rhythms thats the kinda stuff that ends up happening, why change it for your lead playing?
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Originally posted by Warheart View PostSame thing, I would maintain the picking pattern as if I had picked the notes, if you have down up down up, and you're skipping the 3rd note, I'd go down up miss up.
Most of the time when you're doing gallop rhythms thats the kinda stuff that ends up happening, why change it for your lead playing?
I know I have worked out a legato exercise that I practice almost every day that is a little more complex than the whole tone run that I talked about that I have to use some alternate picking due to how the notes fall. I have been trying to find the most efficient way to play and the one that will allow me to get it up to insane speeds with the greatest amount of ease. So far what I have come up with thus far I also do a couple of hammer -ons from no where and after I play the phrase a few times I do a reverse sweep as I think it sounds cool. With that lick though I would like to use it in a song. I also want to use the whole tone thing as well as I think it will sound very Holdsworth.Guitars:EJ Strat, PRS SE Bernie Marsden (with Bare Knuckle Mules), PRS SE Custom 24 Floyd (with Joe Satriani set) PRS SE Zach Myers (Totally Customized for me with Dimarzio Air Classics),Carvin CS6, Gretsch 5422, Taylor 612 ce. Amp:Limited Edition Blues Junior (W/ Eminence Canibis-Rex Speaker ). Effects: Fulltone Full-drive Mosfet 2, Strymon Timeline, TC Electronic Vortex Flanger, Golden Cello Distortion Pedal.
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As said above, I find the best way to do it is to first learn it strict alternate picking, picking every note. The key with legato I think is that you want to keep your right hand moving as if you were picking the note to keep momentum. Legato shouldn't be used as a trick to play faster than you can pick, but instead as a colour that you are using instead of picking a line.Originally posted by BigAlTheBirdI just got oiixed in the mung by a Canadian.
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Originally posted by TimmyPage View PostAs said above, I find the best way to do it is to first learn it strict alternate picking, picking every note. The key with legato I think is that you want to keep your right hand moving as if you were picking the note to keep momentum. Legato shouldn't be used as a trick to play faster than you can pick, but instead as a colour that you are using instead of picking a line.Guitars:EJ Strat, PRS SE Bernie Marsden (with Bare Knuckle Mules), PRS SE Custom 24 Floyd (with Joe Satriani set) PRS SE Zach Myers (Totally Customized for me with Dimarzio Air Classics),Carvin CS6, Gretsch 5422, Taylor 612 ce. Amp:Limited Edition Blues Junior (W/ Eminence Canibis-Rex Speaker ). Effects: Fulltone Full-drive Mosfet 2, Strymon Timeline, TC Electronic Vortex Flanger, Golden Cello Distortion Pedal.
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Originally posted by GuitarStv View PostFirst play the piece without legato using strict alternating picking. Once you have that down comfortably, add in the legato but keep your pick strokes the same. This way you can switch more easily between fast legato and fast picked runs.
For example you might go from:
Up - Down - Up - Down - Up - Down
to
Up - (Hammer) - Up - (Hammer) - (Pull) - DownGuitars:EJ Strat, PRS SE Bernie Marsden (with Bare Knuckle Mules), PRS SE Custom 24 Floyd (with Joe Satriani set) PRS SE Zach Myers (Totally Customized for me with Dimarzio Air Classics),Carvin CS6, Gretsch 5422, Taylor 612 ce. Amp:Limited Edition Blues Junior (W/ Eminence Canibis-Rex Speaker ). Effects: Fulltone Full-drive Mosfet 2, Strymon Timeline, TC Electronic Vortex Flanger, Golden Cello Distortion Pedal.
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Originally posted by jalguitarman View PostThing is, when I alternate pick I tend to start with a downstroke. Perhaps I should start with and upstroke?Join me in the fight against muscular atrophy!
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Originally posted by GuitarStv View PostNo, I was just giving an example. It doesn't matter what direction you start with when you alternate pick (although you should really practice both ways as just starting all your alternate picking runs with a down stroke is limiting). The key thing is to remember that each hammer-on/pull-off is going to replace a picked note. That way when your legato bit is done you can smoothly return to playing your picked notes . . .
See the way I am playing the run right now is down - hammer, down hammer ect then when I descend it's up - pull, up - pull ect. Which once I start pushing the speed the descending part gets hard to play accuratly. Thanks for your advice.Guitars:EJ Strat, PRS SE Bernie Marsden (with Bare Knuckle Mules), PRS SE Custom 24 Floyd (with Joe Satriani set) PRS SE Zach Myers (Totally Customized for me with Dimarzio Air Classics),Carvin CS6, Gretsch 5422, Taylor 612 ce. Amp:Limited Edition Blues Junior (W/ Eminence Canibis-Rex Speaker ). Effects: Fulltone Full-drive Mosfet 2, Strymon Timeline, TC Electronic Vortex Flanger, Golden Cello Distortion Pedal.
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