.047 or .022 Cap???

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Hi ya'll. I have just changed the stock pickups in my RG42, and I am going to replace the 5 way switch with a 3 way and also change the pots. The schematic I got from this site suggested a .047 on the tone pot. What difference would the .047 make from the .022?? Thanks in advance for your help. Oh one other question, should the output from the volume pot go to the recessed pin or the shell in the jack? The schematic shows it going to the long terminal but my guitar came stock with it in the jacks short terminal which is the outer shell.
 
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well Rgs aren't very bright but they are "stratty" compared to a Les Paul. I would go .047 if you want a creamy tone, but for gettin thru the mix rock n roll go .022.
 
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The bigger cap shunts the highs to ground quicker on the pot and is darker overall when the tone pot is on 0....The bigger cap is also going to make things slightly more darker with the pot on 10 compared to the .02 cap....I prefer the .02 normally...
 
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wire up everything except the cap and use aligator clips to switch out caps on the fly- great way to try many combinations in a hurry-
 
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Zion's right on the money. While you're at it, pick up some .01 caps -- they're worth a try.
 
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zionstrat said:
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wire up everything except the cap and use aligator clips to switch out caps on the fly- great way to try many combinations in a hurry-
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That is a good idea! Also, if you get a bulk pack of caps like .047's, you can solder it in, and THEN...use an alligator set of clips with another .047, "piggybacking" onto the legs of the soldered cap...for a 1/2 total near .022!
 
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OlinMusic said:
well Rgs aren't very bright but they are "stratty" compared to a Les Paul. I would go .047 if you want a creamy tone, but for gettin thru the mix rock n roll go .022.
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If your tone is on 10 it really doesn't matter. Its out of the circuit as a practical matter. The cap value determines the cut off point frequency wise of what will be sent to ground as the tone control is engaged. The higher the value the more high frequencies will be sent to ground as the tone is turned down.
 
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TheArchitect said:
If your tone is on 10 it really doesn't matter. Its out of the circuit as a practical matter. The cap value determines the cut off point frequency wise of what will be sent to ground as the tone control is engaged. The higher the value the more high frequencies will be sent to ground as the tone is turned down.
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unless you have a "no load" pot or a switch, trhe cap is still on the circuit. the effect of the cap on tone when its on 10 depends on the value of the pot- 250K has the most effect, 1 Meg the least and a "no load" pot has none.
 
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bryvincent said:
unless you have a "no load" pot or a switch, trhe cap is still on the circuit. the effect of the cap on tone when its on 10 depends on the value of the pot- 250K has the most effect, 1 Meg the least and a "no load" pot has none.
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You will note I said "as a practical matter". Yes there is a VERY small effect but in blind tests I have yet to see anyone who could tell the difference even though most swore they did when they knew what they were listening to.
 
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bryvincent said:
unless you have a "no load" pot or a switch, trhe cap is still on the circuit. the effect of the cap on tone when its on 10 depends on the value of the pot- 250K has the most effect, 1 Meg the least and a "no load" pot has none.
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I agree on this statement....The cap slightly darkens the tone with the pot on 10,unless you totally remove both the pot resistance and the cap with either no tone pot or a No Load Tone Pot....Hence the NLP(Removing the load)mostly the pot's resistance,but the cap is in the equation also...

When you change the cap values,you also slightly effect the tone of the guitar even with the tone pot on 10.....It's slight,but it's there! :13: You notice this more with a 250k pot then you would the 500k or a 1 meg..
 
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Lots of good suggestions here. Definitely try both. I like the .047uf caps on pickups like the JB or anything with a lot of highs. The .047uf cap helps tame those down a bit, even with the tone on 10. Anything else I'll use a .022uf tone cap.
 
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The RG I have has the set neck mahogany body and to my suprise has the JB bridge sounding a little dark. So with that in mind I am leaning towards the .022 as per Stratdeluxes recomendations. I also just ordered a Duncan distortion from Matt to try and tighten up the palm muted E string as I'm getting a little to much rumble out of the JB. Great feedback and thanks to everyone. Scott.
 
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sac said:
The RG I have has the set neck mahogany body and to my suprise has the JB bridge sounding a little dark. So with that in mind I am leaning towards the .022 as per Stratdeluxes recomendations. I also just ordered a Duncan distortion from Matt to try and tighten up the palm muted E string as I'm getting a little to much rumble out of the JB. Great feedback and thanks to everyone. Scott.
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Another value I Love to use and I use it alot,is a .015
 
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Why don't you use a p-p pot to switch the capacitor out of the circuit if you want a true bypass effect?

500K with a .047 cap will give you a deep cut off frequency but the fullest spectrum. Personally, I'd only use .047µF on a bass, but to each his own, as they say.
 
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Now there some food for thought. Thanks Doctor. A .022 on a push/pull might be pretty cool.
 
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You'd need to switch the whole tone control out BTW, not just the cap, otherwise your tone would act as a volume control of sorts.
 
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ScottPearson88 said:
um whats the diff between the like when u say .022/.047 and when u say 250K/500K. ?
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.022/.047 refers to the value of the cpacitors. 250k/500k refers to the value of the pots.
 
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