12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

[WaR HeaD]

Hi dudes...how are u doing?

i was wondering which one would you pick... or just the pros and cons of both guitars... i am saving money for the end of this year to buy a 12 string, and i started to find a couple models of acoustic axes...of course the name taylor came in, and i tried last friday one 454 (cutaway electrified) and get a very good impression of the guitar, awesome sound...

http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/model.aspx?model=454-CE

on the other hand, i found that PRS custom 22/12 electric guitar... the name prs just tell everyone the axe is a good choice, the finish is just beautifull whichever you choose... and i´m sure the guitar will sound awesome also...

http://prsguitars.com/showcase/current/custom2212.html

both guitars goes near 2.5 k (the PRS goes to 3 k if i add birds and a 10 top) so, which guitar is more usefull...what can i do with one of these that i can´t do with the other...

thanks for the replies

see ya

 

[ex-250]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

i dunno....how often would you really use the electric features more? i love my 12string (acoustic)....dont think id have enough use for a 12string electric with a pricetag like that (though i have been tempted by a $400 schecter)

 

[cvansickle]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

I would spend the big bucks on the Taylor acoustic. I'm sure the PRS is an awesome guitar, but a really nice acoustic 12 sounds incredible where a so-so acoustic 12 won't.

I have both electric and acoustic 12s. The acoustic is a really good Alvarez-Yairi DY-80. My electric 12 is a Danelectro. I have much more occasion to play the acoustic than the electric.

 

[Mephis]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

Ever considered a Rickenbacker 660/12? (the 660/12 has a wider neck that non-ric players would be use to.)

 

[ex-250]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

btw, i dont see an acoustic in your gear list. go for the taylor

 

[Hellion]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

Everyone should have an acoustic 12 string in their arsenal. I love the sound of a Taylor, but don't have that kind of budget. You might consider Ovation. That's what I use now, and I'm really liking the way that they sound.

 

[ex-250]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

my 12 string is an ovation too, its great

 

[Skullkrusher]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

Get the Taylor.

 

[James Rock]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

i like rickenbacker 12 strings because i find jangly tones is the only useful thing for an electric 12 wheras a 12 string acoustic is the best for strumming.

 

[larry_emder]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

Whoa, thats a lotta moolah for a 12 string.

I'd go for an acoustic, but thats just me

 

[Mephis]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

Or get a piezo bridge on an electric 12 hollowbody for the best of both worlds.

 

[Dirt123]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

Guild used to make great acoustic 12's Try a used one, normally less that a grand.

The new Guilds are made in the Tacoma factory, I have not tried one yet, but they LOOK like guilds. They make 2 jumbo acoustic 12s now, an F-412 & an F-512.

As far as electric 12s go, it's hard to beat the classic sound of a Rick. The necks area bit narrow for some folks, but the nut can be modified. Again, a used Rick 330-12 is normally less than a grand. The 660-12 is a solid body, and has a little wider neck. A little more expensive, too.

If you like the feel of a Rick, you can pretty much order whatever you want (within their available options) The are made in the USA, quality is high, and are hand-made.

BBB

 

[Bludave]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

Hi dudes...how are u doing?

i was wondering which one would you pick... or just the pros and cons of both guitars... i am saving money for the end of this year to buy a 12 string, and i started to find a couple models of acoustic axes...of course the name taylor came in, and i tried last friday one 454 (cutaway electrified) and get a very good impression of the guitar, awesome sound...

http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/model.aspx?model=454-CE

on the other hand, i found that PRS custom 22/12 electric guitar... the name prs just tell everyone the axe is a good choice, the finish is just beautifull whichever you choose... and i´m sure the guitar will sound awesome also...

http://prsguitars.com/showcase/current/custom2212.html

both guitars goes near 2.5 k (the PRS goes to 3 k if i add birds and a 10 top) so, which guitar is more usefull...what can i do with one of these that i can´t do with the other...

thanks for the replies

see ya

I would recommend going acoustic. It is more likely something you will use more. I thin electric 12 strings are great when needed, but the need is not that great. As far a brands........ hands down Guild acoustic12 strings are the best structurally. There are few 12 strings that will be able to take the stress of 12 strings tuned to pitch without doing some damage to the axe. Guilds have a very high end truss rod and the tops of the guitars are thicker and they have a larger bridge plate. All this contributes to its ability to play tuned to ptich. Taylors are also good guitars, but they are braced very light and over time will usually result in some form of reapir work necessary. Its a trade off to a degree........ The Taylors may sound better, but just a little better IMO...... The Guilds can really take the abuse that the 12 strings will add to the structure of the guitar.

 

[ex-250]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

theres something about guilds though....maybe they use thicker layers of paint on the neck or something, cause they always feel really plasticy to me

 

[WaR HeaD]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

...yeah, i´ll really use more an acoustic axe than an electric, i have been thinking about that today...and i´ll go for a 12 string acoustic

i´ve been searching a couple models and after reading the rest of the replies, btw sorry if i don´t quote your messages but hey, i have read a lot of replies, THANKS A LOT for the help... anyway i have been finding info about the guilds, the ovations, another taylor models, and also martins...(well i´ve found also takamines and seagulls)

Guild -> 2.5 grands for the F412 without the piezo nor a preamp... 2.8 with the piezo... the f512 goes to 3 grands with the fishman...

Ovation -> looks great, didn´t see the prices cause there is not a dealer in spain...end of the story

Takamine/Seagull -> i think i´m finding something better than these

Taylor -> 454ce for 2.6 Grands - 355 (without preamp) for 1800 €

Martin -> D12-28 for 2.8 grands - j12-16gt for 1.700 €, both without a preamp

as i said before, i will save money for the end of the year (or at least the end of summertime) to buy one of these... it seems that the taylors win for the price and specs... anyway, there is some martin owner/lover who could tell me something about this guitars rather than they are expensive and opeth and eric clapton plays with them?

 

[Dirt123]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

theres something about guilds though....maybe they use thicker layers of paint on the neck or something, cause they always feel really plasticy to me

I suppose that depends on when it was made, I'm pretty sure that they have always been finished in nitro - but I'm not sure. There does seem to be a bit of variability among Guilds. Try before you buy. In the old days, they were “The”12 string guitar.

I have an Ovation acoustic, too, but not a 12 string. I do like the feel of the Ovation neck. A completely wood, more traditional acoustic like a Guild (or Martin) is appealing if you want a more traditional acoustic sound. Taylors have their own thing going on, a little more modern with the bolt-on neck & stainless steel frets.

Ovation 12's like yours are cool, affordable, & durable. Mine has lasted almost 30 years.

BBB

 

[Dirt123]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

...yeah, i´ll really use more an acoustic axe than an electric, i have been thinking about that today...and i´ll go for a 12 string acoustic

i´ve been searching a couple models and after reading the rest of the replies, btw sorry if i don´t quote your messages but hey, i have read a lot of replies, THANKS A LOT for the help... anyway i have been finding info about the guilds, the ovations, another taylor models, and also martins...(well i´ve found also takamines and seagulls)

Guild -> 2.5 grands for the F412 without the piezo nor a preamp... 2.8 with the piezo... the f512 goes to 3 grands with the fishman...

Ovation -> looks great, didn´t see the prices cause there is not a dealer in spain...end of the story

Takamine/Seagull -> i think i´m finding something better than these

Taylor -> 454ce for 2.6 Grands - 355 (without preamp) for 1800 €

Martin -> D12-28 for 2.8 grands - j12-16gt for 1.700 €, both without a preamp

as i said before, i will save money for the end of the year (or at least the end of summertime) to buy one of these... it seems that the taylors win for the price and specs... anyway, there is some martin owner/lover who could tell me something about this guitars rather than they are expensive and opeth and eric clapton plays with them?

I do have a Seagull 12, not a bad guitar, cheap & loud. I want to upgrade to a Guild myself.

If you have not tried one, the F-412 & F-512 are HUGE 17" wide Jumbos. Big sound, but not everyone finds them comfortable.

Martins are just great guitars, they are making as good as (if not better) guitars than they have ever made. Traditional glued-in dovetail neck joint as opposed to a bolt on like the Taylors (not better - different - a bolt on is simpler to build and easier to perform a neck reset on. I have a cousin who builds acoustics, & he swears by the bolt on neck joint, but he loves Martins. Go figure.) However, Martin has not been known for great 12-string.

BTW, Clapton USED to play Guild acoustics. My personal preference for would be the Guild.
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[Bludave]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

...yeah, i´ll really use more an acoustic axe than an electric, i have been thinking about that today...and i´ll go for a 12 string acoustic

i´ve been searching a couple models and after reading the rest of the replies, btw sorry if i don´t quote your messages but hey, i have read a lot of replies, THANKS A LOT for the help... anyway i have been finding info about the guilds, the ovations, another taylor models, and also martins...(well i´ve found also takamines and seagulls)

Guild -> 2.5 grands for the F412 without the piezo nor a preamp... 2.8 with the piezo... the f512 goes to 3 grands with the fishman...

Ovation -> looks great, didn´t see the prices cause there is not a dealer in spain...end of the story



Takamine/Seagull -> i think i´m finding something better than these

Taylor -> 454ce for 2.6 Grands - 355 (without preamp) for 1800 €

Martin -> D12-28 for 2.8 grands - j12-16gt for 1.700 €, both without a preamp

as i said before, i will save money for the end of the year (or at least the end of summertime) to buy one of these... it seems that the taylors win for the price and specs... anyway, there is some martin owner/lover who could tell me something about this guitars rather than they are expensive and opeth and eric clapton plays with them?

Look araound and see if you can find a used Guild. They are considerably less expensive than new and can be had here for under $1000. Good luck!

 

[WaR HeaD]

Re: 12 string acoustic vs 12 string electric

Look araound and see if you can find a used Guild. They are considerably less expensive than new and can be had here for under $1000. Good luck!

hi again... i´ve talked to the people at my nearest store and i have get a great deal, they have a Guild f412 and a Taylor 455 for 1800 €... both new, they have had a hard time selling these ones for no special reasons, they use to sell them without a problem, but they have to sell them before the new ones come in... so i could get one of these, new, and only a little more expensive than used...

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