14th Fret G and B fretout

Oceano

Oceano

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On the 14th fret on my Jagmaster the G and B strings fret out on the 14th fret. I find it strange because it's a 9.5" radius. It also happens on the Low E string, and it only happens at that fret. I get buzzing other places, but they aren't completely dead notes. What's wrong here? It looks to me that the nut might be too high, but does that affect this at all?

Thanks in advance :D
 
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BTW this only happens when I bend the strings. I can get a whole step up, but not a step and a half.
 
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There might be couple things;

1) Uneven frets. You might need to get them leveled by an experienced luthier
2) Action might be too low. You can try adjusting it higher
3) Also having the same radius at nut, fretboard and the bridge might solve this issue.
 
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Raise your action. It could be other things too, but a good place to start is to raise your action a little.

its the Summer. The humidity & air temperature are rising causing the wood to swell. The neck probably has too much relief in it as well (this is hard to tell without actually seeing the guitar). Hold the 6 string down at the fret closest to the body & also at the first fret. There should be a very little bit of space(barely visible) between the bottom of the string and the top of the 7th fret. If there is a lot of space the truss rod needs to be tightened. get the neck straight, then adjust your action to a point where you can do a full bend and not choke out. this will vary a little from guitar to guitar, but in general a guitar will play cleaner with a little higher action then with the action too low.

Thee is a possibility that the 14th fret is higher then the others, but I doubt it. It probably just needs to be setup!
 
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My action is already a bit on the higher end. I wasn't aware that too much relief could do that (i'm used to G style guitars with 12" radii). I'll try that first, then maybe try adjusting the bridge saddles to more of a radius.
 
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Oceano said:
My action is already a bit on the higher end. I wasn't aware that too much relief could do that (i'm used to G style guitars with 12" radii). I'll try that first, then maybe try adjusting the bridge saddles to more of a radius.
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What do you consider high? What do you mean by "G style" guitars? I like my action at about 1/8th inch... or a touch higher. Bending is very easy at that height. I don't mean to tell you that's where it should be, but for me I have to play with a higher action or I get a lot of plinking. Some guitars naturally play better low, but in my case i just seem to play better with the strings up some. you will find you get more sustain and better tone. Give the strings some room to vibrate.
 
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"G style guitar"? Gibson style? I assume fenders and gibsons have different neck radii.

If you want to know if that one fret's higher than the rest, can't you get a 12" ruler or something and put it side-on up that area of the neck parallel to the strings, see if you see light between the ruler and frets or see if it rocks pivoting over that fret. You probably don't want the neck completely flat, you need some relief; but this should help you see if one fret is out of place with the ones near it.
 
Re: 14th Fret G and B fretout

Oceano said:
On the 14th fret on my Jagmaster the G and B strings fret out on the 14th fret. I find it strange because it's a 9.5" radius. It also happens on the Low E string, and it only happens at that fret. I get buzzing other places, but they aren't completely dead notes. What's wrong here? It looks to me that the nut might be too high, but does that affect this at all?

Thanks in advance :D
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trust the dude that was obsessed with fender setups:

your action should be 2mm at the 12th fret bass side and 1.5 treble side. make sure each saddle is level. are these old strings or new strings? does it fret out when you bend to either side, or just a particular side?
 
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