15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

[ex-250]

i liked the V30, V12 H30, and swamp thang best. probably in that order too (V30 the most, and so on)

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

I like the Celestion K-100 and the Jensen P12N Alnico the best. I had never heard of the K-100 before? I also liked the Vintage 30 in the lead clip.

 

[That90'sGuy]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

I really liked the Celestion Vintage 30, Jensen P12N Alnico (that one was a surprise, honestly), and not surprisingly, the Celestion Alnico Gold

 

[Porto Leone]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

if i had to pick one, that would be the K-100. The 70 Eighty sounds really great for the price too. the Tubby Tone, EV and JBL speakers sound muddy to my ears.
i'd love to hear a clean-settings comparison too.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

Interesting test and you can hear the differences between each speaker, so in that way it's informative.

But I didn't like the tone I heard from any of them because I didn't like the tone they dialed in on the amp in the first place.

And if they left the amp set with the same tone dialed in for all 13 speakers that's really not going to make any of them sound great because I would normally adjust the amp to sound good with whatever speaker I'm playing through.

But it's still an interesting video for reference.

Didn't hear MY tone though and I play through a G12H30.

I guarantee that those 13 speakers would all sound different in your rig than they do in the video. Especially the Vintage 30.

 

[idsnowdog]

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And if they left the amp set with the same tone dialed in for all 13 speakers that's really not going to make any of them sound great because I would normally adjust the amp to sound good with whatever speaker I'm playing through.

How do you figure adjusting the amp for each speaker would be a neutral or objective criteria? That's not comparing apples to apples. The object wasn't to make each sample sound the best.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

The object wasn't to make each sample sound the best.

Nope. And the result is that they all sounded mediocre. But as I said, it's a useful video in terms of referencing one speaker compared to the other.

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

Nope. And the result is that they all sounded mediocre. But as I said, it's a useful video in terms of referencing one speaker compared to the other.

I also suspect that a few of those speakers do not sound very good if they haven't been broken in. For instance I thought the Tone Tubby speakers sounded horrible. I would hope they sound better after being broken in.

 

[Reload in 5]

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How do you figure adjusting the amp for each speaker would be a neutral or objective criteria? That's not comparing apples to apples. The object wasn't to make each sample sound the best.

I think the point is, my amp with a v30 sounds best when it has bass at 5, mid at 5, and treble at 5.
With a g12t75 it sounds best with bass at 3, mid at 7, and treble at 4. **

If I run the test with everything straight up (at 5) the v30 will sound beat, and thats not fair to the other speakers. If I run the test with bass at 3, mid at 7, and treble at 4, the g12t75 is going to sound best, once again not fair to the other speakers. **

The value I see in something like is is just getting started in narrowing down speaker choices. Maybe dump the ones that are the absolute worst. But again, only if you like the tone they are using to test to start with.


**I made these settings up. My amp does not have any tone controls.

 

[Stratman]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

Interesting test and you can hear the differences between each speaker, so in that way it's informative.

But I didn't like the tone I heard from any of them because I didn't like the tone they dialed in on the amp in the first place.

And if they left the amp set with the same tone dialed in for all 13 speakers that's really not going to make any of them sound great because I would normally adjust the amp to sound good with whatever speaker I'm playing through.

But it's still an interesting video for reference.

Didn't hear MY tone though and I play through a G12H30.

I guarantee that those 13 speakers would all sound different in your rig than they do in the video. Especially the Vintage 30.

I agree 100%, tone setting from the amp were not the best at all and using the same setting for an amp doesn't give an accurate representation of the what / where the speaker sound best.

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

The test was conducted properly in that the input for every variable was exactly the same. Having constant input makes the comparison scientifically valid, because the input hasn't changed.

If your testing clothing to make sure it isn't flammable you don't change the testing methods from one sample to another! You don't test one soaked in gasoline and the other frozen in a block of ice, because that would make the test skewed. ****, I am so glad nobody here works for UL!

 

[Reload in 5]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

The test was conducted properly in that the input for every variable was exactly the same. Having constant input makes the comparison scientifically valid, because the input hasn't changed.

I agree, the test was scientifically solid. I've conducted many scientifically solid tests.

If we wanted to know which laser was best for cutting at x freq with x power, then this is the test to take.
If we simply want to know which is the best cutter, and one can take 10x the power input of the other, we run each at their max power and most efficient frequency.

So this test just telss us what speaker sounds best with these exact amp settings, this exact power, this exact playing style, when close miced.

I am more interested in which speaker sounds better, which would involve changing settings to maximize each speaker.

 

[Dirtyking]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

I dig the V30 and the Swampthing.

 

[Svs696]

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I like the V30 and the swamp thang.

 

[DesertRat]

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Greenback. Not surprising, I have a Greenback and a G12h30 in my rig.

 

[TSE]

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I have Swamps in my Earcandy 2X12 and they are excellent for metal if you are looking for a clean, uncolored tone with very little speaker breakup. In the clip with the chords it sounded overly bassy to me. The lead clip sounded the best to my ears. Weird. Mine sound completely different than that clip. Don't know if it's the amp or what, maybe because mine are the old ones with the old basket type and they have been broken in from four or five years of metal brutality!!

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

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I couldn't tell much of a difference from one to another on my computor speakers. I think the amp's gain tone over rides everything here. I couldn't hear the differences I have noticed with my own rigs.

 

[wixedmords]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

I liked the G12H-30. G12M-70's don't usually sound that good. A bit surprising.

The V30's as usual are nasally and hard on the ears, imo. Better when mixed with something that would counteract that sound. WGS Veterans are better to my ears.

 

[tenniso]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

jensen p12n, greenback, eminence tonker, and swamp thang. i liked these 4 all about the same with the greenback being my least favorite.

 

[krankguitarist]

Re: 15 speakers tested- pick your favorite

I liked the Swamp Thang, Tonker, and G12-K100 the most.