Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
mmmmm. 69 pink face.
mmmmm. 69 pink face.
1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
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Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
squeals a bit, but can really wail when you dig in.
squeals a bit, but can really wail when you dig in.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
I want to say just one more little old thing...
You guys have to remember one very important thing...
The Silverface era of Fender was the longest running single era in ways...the oldest Tweeds (TV Front) only lasted a few years, they were followed by wide panels which also only lasted a few years then narrow panel, again they only lasted a few years then blond/brown even fewer years then Blackface which also only ran about years (4 maybe 5) then there was Silverface which ran from 1967 until right around 1980 and at that point they went back to a Blackface plate for a few more years.
Now the reason I mention that is because of this...the Silverface era of Fender had more changes than any other era of Fender...the differences between a 1967 Silverface Twin Reverb and a 1980 Silverface Twin Reverb is a long list...really there are more differences than similarities to be honest!!!
So, remember one thing going forward into 2013...not all Silverface Fender amps are the same, and none of them are bad...in fact I can name a few guys that like the latest Silverface, Ultra Linear amps better than the Blackface era amps, I'm not one of them but then again to be dead honest I could give a crap about most Blackface or Silverface Fenders...I like midrange and ALL those mid 60's to late 70's Fender amps lack real midrange content! to me!
I want to say just one more little old thing...
You guys have to remember one very important thing...
The Silverface era of Fender was the longest running single era in ways...the oldest Tweeds (TV Front) only lasted a few years, they were followed by wide panels which also only lasted a few years then narrow panel, again they only lasted a few years then blond/brown even fewer years then Blackface which also only ran about years (4 maybe 5) then there was Silverface which ran from 1967 until right around 1980 and at that point they went back to a Blackface plate for a few more years.
Now the reason I mention that is because of this...the Silverface era of Fender had more changes than any other era of Fender...the differences between a 1967 Silverface Twin Reverb and a 1980 Silverface Twin Reverb is a long list...really there are more differences than similarities to be honest!!!
So, remember one thing going forward into 2013...not all Silverface Fender amps are the same, and none of them are bad...in fact I can name a few guys that like the latest Silverface, Ultra Linear amps better than the Blackface era amps, I'm not one of them but then again to be dead honest I could give a crap about most Blackface or Silverface Fenders...I like midrange and ALL those mid 60's to late 70's Fender amps lack real midrange content! to me!
MetalManiac
Li'l Junior Member
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
Of course you do, becasue I'm insane, and not responsible for my actions.:friday:
Of course you do, becasue I'm insane, and not responsible for my actions.:friday:
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
I want to say just one more little old thing...
You guys have to remember one very important thing...
The Silverface era of Fender was the longest running single era in ways...the oldest Tweeds (TV Front) only lasted a few years, they were followed by wide panels which also only lasted a few years then narrow panel, again they only lasted a few years then blond/brown even fewer years then Blackface which also only ran about years (4 maybe 5) then there was Silverface which ran from 1967 until right around 1980 and at that point they went back to a Blackface plate for a few more years.
Now the reason I mention that is because of this...the Silverface era of Fender had more changes than any other era of Fender...the differences between a 1967 Silverface Twin Reverb and a 1980 Silverface Twin Reverb is a long list...really there are more differences than similarities to be honest!!!
So, remember one thing going forward into 2013...not all Silverface Fender amps are the same, and none of them are bad...in fact I can name a few guys that like the latest Silverface, Ultra Linear amps better than the Blackface era amps, I'm not one of them but then again to be dead honest I could give a crap about most Blackface or Silverface Fenders...I like midrange and ALL those mid 60's to late 70's Fender amps lack real midrange content! to me!
I want to say just one more little old thing...
You guys have to remember one very important thing...
The Silverface era of Fender was the longest running single era in ways...the oldest Tweeds (TV Front) only lasted a few years, they were followed by wide panels which also only lasted a few years then narrow panel, again they only lasted a few years then blond/brown even fewer years then Blackface which also only ran about years (4 maybe 5) then there was Silverface which ran from 1967 until right around 1980 and at that point they went back to a Blackface plate for a few more years.
Now the reason I mention that is because of this...the Silverface era of Fender had more changes than any other era of Fender...the differences between a 1967 Silverface Twin Reverb and a 1980 Silverface Twin Reverb is a long list...really there are more differences than similarities to be honest!!!
So, remember one thing going forward into 2013...not all Silverface Fender amps are the same, and none of them are bad...in fact I can name a few guys that like the latest Silverface, Ultra Linear amps better than the Blackface era amps, I'm not one of them but then again to be dead honest I could give a crap about most Blackface or Silverface Fenders...I like midrange and ALL those mid 60's to late 70's Fender amps lack real midrange content! to me!
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
I don't think being a childish and sad alcoholic qualifies you for being insane but what the heck...I'll let it slide!
I don't think being a childish and sad alcoholic qualifies you for being insane but what the heck...I'll let it slide!
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
I hope some of you have not reproduced and you just ruined this post, it seems. Man, amps boil down to different strokes for different folks. Dumbles are sick, but that probably would not be my main choice of an amp just because they're sick. Same thing couldgo for various eras of Fenders, or even Marshalls.
I hope some of you have not reproduced and you just ruined this post, it seems. Man, amps boil down to different strokes for different folks. Dumbles are sick, but that probably would not be my main choice of an amp just because they're sick. Same thing couldgo for various eras of Fenders, or even Marshalls.
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
sokay Blues guy, my main amp is a silverface twin, I ****en love it if that helps.
sokay Blues guy, my main amp is a silverface twin, I ****en love it if that helps.
crusty philtrum
Vintageologist
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
the main thing is that the OP played through the amp mentioned in the thread title and loved it. That's really all that counts methinks.
the main thing is that the OP played through the amp mentioned in the thread title and loved it. That's really all that counts methinks.
glassman
Electron Herder
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
If there's bacon involved...I'm interested!
If there's bacon involved...I'm interested!
guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
Fun thread. I've never plugged into any SF Fender that didn't make me smile...even the 1978 Pro Reverb with the MV. It sounded GREAT.
So it's not an exact BF tone. Well, so what? Just because some guys started saying BF tone was somehow better, it took hold, and nowadays we get guys like Jerry just perpetuating the myth. I'm with Glassman. They all sound great, and with the lower volume shows we all now have to do, pedals make sense, and the clean core tone of the SF fenders really make good ODs shine.
FWIW, I think mid '60s Ampegs sound way better than mid '60s BF Fenders.
Fun thread. I've never plugged into any SF Fender that didn't make me smile...even the 1978 Pro Reverb with the MV. It sounded GREAT.
So it's not an exact BF tone. Well, so what? Just because some guys started saying BF tone was somehow better, it took hold, and nowadays we get guys like Jerry just perpetuating the myth. I'm with Glassman. They all sound great, and with the lower volume shows we all now have to do, pedals make sense, and the clean core tone of the SF fenders really make good ODs shine.
FWIW, I think mid '60s Ampegs sound way better than mid '60s BF Fenders.
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Laughing Kookaburra
Active member
Rockstar216
New member
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
Update. My friend has a 65 BF I played through the other day. I was very low when I played through it but to me they didnt sound that different maybe the BF was a lil darker sounding but thats it. So far I like the SF fender.
Update. My friend has a 65 BF I played through the other day. I was very low when I played through it but to me they didnt sound that different maybe the BF was a lil darker sounding but thats it. So far I like the SF fender.
Rodney Gene
O.G.
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
Amps are unique. I understand the 'argument' here...but parts are just parts and since nothing is ever created equal, all arguments for what sounds 'best' (based on model) is ultimately null and void to me. Plenty of mediocre sounding BFs and plenty of great sounding SFs...and vice-versa This can be said of all well-made amps. Sometimes the parts make a great whole, sometimes not. (Strats and Teles are just parts guitars and sometimes they are magic and sometimes they are terrible despite price or part or mods etc) I have a 65 Twin reissue. 100% stock with Jensens. Great sounding amp. Output tranny gets incredibly hot but it sounds really great. Lots of options to buy vintage here n Austin, but I was on the hunt for a great sounding loud/clean amp. This amp... was the one for now. I didn't choose it because it was a reissue nor because it was not vintage. Had I found a vintage one I loved, I would have bought it. Whether it lasts 40 years is yet to be seen. Not too concerned with that. I suggest that any amp you really get inspired with is worth its weight in gold...BFs, SF or pink faced.
Amps are unique. I understand the 'argument' here...but parts are just parts and since nothing is ever created equal, all arguments for what sounds 'best' (based on model) is ultimately null and void to me. Plenty of mediocre sounding BFs and plenty of great sounding SFs...and vice-versa This can be said of all well-made amps. Sometimes the parts make a great whole, sometimes not. (Strats and Teles are just parts guitars and sometimes they are magic and sometimes they are terrible despite price or part or mods etc) I have a 65 Twin reissue. 100% stock with Jensens. Great sounding amp. Output tranny gets incredibly hot but it sounds really great. Lots of options to buy vintage here n Austin, but I was on the hunt for a great sounding loud/clean amp. This amp... was the one for now. I didn't choose it because it was a reissue nor because it was not vintage. Had I found a vintage one I loved, I would have bought it. Whether it lasts 40 years is yet to be seen. Not too concerned with that. I suggest that any amp you really get inspired with is worth its weight in gold...BFs, SF or pink faced.
Andrew Lamprecht
Minion of One
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
I had a 1969 silverface bassman that was really great sounding. I played a late 70s (I think a 79) Super Reverb that is considered among the worst silverfaces. It sounded really good and I didn't think anything bad about it once I played it.
I had a 1969 silverface bassman that was really great sounding. I played a late 70s (I think a 79) Super Reverb that is considered among the worst silverfaces. It sounded really good and I didn't think anything bad about it once I played it.
Powdered Toast Man
New member
Re: 1974 silver face Fender twin Reverb OMG
One of the biggest reasons I've read about why SF amps are not popular is because they're synonymous with the "CBS era" of Fender. Let's not forget that by the early to mid-70's, Fender's reputation was in the crapper. I was a teen in the mid-90's, but I still remember hearing the term "pre-CBS" when people talked about the value of any vintage Fender. The other big reason is that you have to consider the era in which these amps were being made. SF started in late '67. All of the mods to the circuits were designed to make the amps sound cleaner at higher volumes (eliminate the breakup). Well consider what was going on in popular music in the late 60's-early 70's. Guitarists wanted their amps to overdrive and distort, yet here was Fender changing their amps to run clean as possible. So, they started to sell fewer of them. Cost cutting also began to take its toll. I have a 1973 Champ. My bandmate picked up a nearly identical 1977 Champ. When you sat them side-by-side, one of the most obvious differences was the cabinet. Mine was still actual plywood. The '77 was OSB board.
So, we can sit here all day and opine about how overlooked these amps are - and in some cases that's true. It's when you put it in context of the era in which they were being made, then you realize why they were not popular.
As for MetalManiac, apparently you're not familiar with a search engine called "Google" because I searched "Silverface Fender Amps" and came up with LOTS of information. This is a page that really delves into what the SF Fenders were about:
http://www.freeinfosociety.com/article.php?id=275
One of the biggest reasons I've read about why SF amps are not popular is because they're synonymous with the "CBS era" of Fender. Let's not forget that by the early to mid-70's, Fender's reputation was in the crapper. I was a teen in the mid-90's, but I still remember hearing the term "pre-CBS" when people talked about the value of any vintage Fender. The other big reason is that you have to consider the era in which these amps were being made. SF started in late '67. All of the mods to the circuits were designed to make the amps sound cleaner at higher volumes (eliminate the breakup). Well consider what was going on in popular music in the late 60's-early 70's. Guitarists wanted their amps to overdrive and distort, yet here was Fender changing their amps to run clean as possible. So, they started to sell fewer of them. Cost cutting also began to take its toll. I have a 1973 Champ. My bandmate picked up a nearly identical 1977 Champ. When you sat them side-by-side, one of the most obvious differences was the cabinet. Mine was still actual plywood. The '77 was OSB board.
So, we can sit here all day and opine about how overlooked these amps are - and in some cases that's true. It's when you put it in context of the era in which they were being made, then you realize why they were not popular.
As for MetalManiac, apparently you're not familiar with a search engine called "Google" because I searched "Silverface Fender Amps" and came up with LOTS of information. This is a page that really delves into what the SF Fenders were about:
http://www.freeinfosociety.com/article.php?id=275
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