Miget Kotla
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http://www.fender.com/guitars/stratocaster/2013-closet-classic-strat-pro-maple/
What do you guys think?
Retail pricing seems to be 50-75% of MSRP.
What do you guys think?
Retail pricing seems to be 50-75% of MSRP.
2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
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Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
Well yeah... nobody EVER pays MSRP. Check every guitar on any retail site and none of them sell for MSRP.
I'm not opposed to a bunch of questions but come on man, do a bit of your own research.
Well yeah... nobody EVER pays MSRP. Check every guitar on any retail site and none of them sell for MSRP.
I'm not opposed to a bunch of questions but come on man, do a bit of your own research.
Miget Kotla
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Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
The price was afterthought and I actually remain more interested in what members might think of the guitar itself. Hoping to start the research here (very informed group when it comes to everything technical)......and I understand it's a 2013 model so not too many customer reviews I could find (found a couple reviews of the 2012 that were nice). Thanks for any info shared.
The price was afterthought and I actually remain more interested in what members might think of the guitar itself. Hoping to start the research here (very informed group when it comes to everything technical)......and I understand it's a 2013 model so not too many customer reviews I could find (found a couple reviews of the 2012 that were nice). Thanks for any info shared.
Powdered Toast Man
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2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
Looks great! Buy it!
Looks great! Buy it!
CTN
The Drama Dude
Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
This guitar is worthless, because it's made of wood. As everyone clearly knows, wood is flammable and subject to rotting, fungal infection etc. Also, it degrades over time and will eventually be broken down into nothing but fossil fuels.
The only guitar worth getting is made of diamond. diamond strings, diamond tuners, diamond everything. Then you can hear the crystal lattice of the carbon atoms, and it will never decompose.
This guitar is worthless, because it's made of wood. As everyone clearly knows, wood is flammable and subject to rotting, fungal infection etc. Also, it degrades over time and will eventually be broken down into nothing but fossil fuels.
The only guitar worth getting is made of diamond. diamond strings, diamond tuners, diamond everything. Then you can hear the crystal lattice of the carbon atoms, and it will never decompose.
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Funkfingers
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Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
All Strats should cost that much.
Alternatively, there is always the Fender Jizzmaster.
All Strats should cost that much.
Alternatively, there is always the Fender Jizzmaster.
Miget Kotla
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ALTERNATIVES TO OVERPRICING AND SECOND RATE PARTS?
ALTERNATIVES TO OVERPRICING AND SECOND RATE PARTS?
Yeah...and maybe if Fender falls from the top guitar manufacturers ranks one day it will force them to make higher end guitars and sell the ones they have for more affordable prices. Too bad it seems extremely hard for a guitar luthier to make a complete living from making great guitars (without more).
Maybe it is better to check out Warmoth (as someone recommended earlier) and find a decent shop to assemble the kit. Warmoth has a big selection of Strat options, although it still seems like lots of the hardware can be found directly from the respective manufacturers (Seymour Duncan, Schaller, etc). Tom Sholz many years ago operated a question and answer forum for fans interested in the tech side of Boston. Missed my chance then to get some expert advice on the parts I'm looking for today. Tom remains very active today responding to fans but I don't think he does the guitar/amp/engineering Q&A as much as he did a while back (he's playing guitar lots more).
Anyone build a guitar (or have a luthier do so) with body/neck/parts from Warmoth?
Thanks!
ALTERNATIVES TO OVERPRICING AND SECOND RATE PARTS?
Yeah...and maybe if Fender falls from the top guitar manufacturers ranks one day it will force them to make higher end guitars and sell the ones they have for more affordable prices. Too bad it seems extremely hard for a guitar luthier to make a complete living from making great guitars (without more).
Maybe it is better to check out Warmoth (as someone recommended earlier) and find a decent shop to assemble the kit. Warmoth has a big selection of Strat options, although it still seems like lots of the hardware can be found directly from the respective manufacturers (Seymour Duncan, Schaller, etc). Tom Sholz many years ago operated a question and answer forum for fans interested in the tech side of Boston. Missed my chance then to get some expert advice on the parts I'm looking for today. Tom remains very active today responding to fans but I don't think he does the guitar/amp/engineering Q&A as much as he did a while back (he's playing guitar lots more).
Anyone build a guitar (or have a luthier do so) with body/neck/parts from Warmoth?
Thanks!
tubecrunch
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Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
<---- that's a warmoth. It rules. I endorse it.
<---- that's a warmoth. It rules. I endorse it.
OttoMatick
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Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
I think I like my 97 American Standard better.
I think I like my 97 American Standard better.
Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
Looks like it'll be one of the $2299-2399 ones, those seem to be the new pricepoints for Fenders this year.
Viciously expensive, if you ask me. And for no apparent reason. Buy 3-4 different CIJ/MIJ Fenders and put all the different CS pickup sets in them instead... you might even be left with money to buy an amp, too, that way.
Looks like it'll be one of the $2299-2399 ones, those seem to be the new pricepoints for Fenders this year.
Viciously expensive, if you ask me. And for no apparent reason. Buy 3-4 different CIJ/MIJ Fenders and put all the different CS pickup sets in them instead... you might even be left with money to buy an amp, too, that way.
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Funkfingers
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Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
Does Warmoth make Jizzmaster bodies? If so, of what materials? Diamond? Graphite Reinforced Plastic? Masonite?
Does Warmoth make Jizzmaster bodies? If so, of what materials? Diamond? Graphite Reinforced Plastic? Masonite?
Powdered Toast Man
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2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
The problem with Partscasters is resale value. They're worthless on the used market. The other is that you can assemble what should be an amazing guitar based on the specs but when it all goes together it doesn't turn out.
The problem with Partscasters is resale value. They're worthless on the used market. The other is that you can assemble what should be an amazing guitar based on the specs but when it all goes together it doesn't turn out.
Miget Kotla
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Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
Decent chance of turning out if go to a luthier to assemble?
If the guitar player/owner is not planning ever selling his instrument...........maybe that will make a difference?
Decent chance of turning out if go to a luthier to assemble?
If the guitar player/owner is not planning ever selling his instrument...........maybe that will make a difference?
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
Kind of and yes.
When people say things like that about partscasters, it really only applies to oddball custom builds that have not really been done before. IE a bolt on swamp ash les paul with a burled cocobolo top and a wenge neck with a graphite fingerboard and jazzmaster (or jizzmaster) pickups. Strats are easy because most of the possibilities have been tried already by at least someone. If you're going for odd wood choices, find someone who's done it already and ask them what they thought of it.
Having a luthier do your guitar will help the playability, but not the tone, at least directly.
Kind of and yes.
When people say things like that about partscasters, it really only applies to oddball custom builds that have not really been done before. IE a bolt on swamp ash les paul with a burled cocobolo top and a wenge neck with a graphite fingerboard and jazzmaster (or jizzmaster) pickups. Strats are easy because most of the possibilities have been tried already by at least someone. If you're going for odd wood choices, find someone who's done it already and ask them what they thought of it.
Having a luthier do your guitar will help the playability, but not the tone, at least directly.
Miget Kotla
New member
Re: 2013 FENDER CLOSET CLASSIC STRAT PRO MAPLE
Selecting compatible wood types and ensuring standard configuration (Warmoth keeps things pretty standard with their selection) might help? I saw a few interviews a while back of the Fender Custom Shop luthiers and one explained a "bright" neck usually works best with a "dark" sounding body...and in reverse (bright body wood sound works best with dark sounding neck). I saw the post from the person who really liked the Seymour Duncan Zeph pickups but complained there was too much feedback when in distortion mode at high volumes. Do you think using a fairly dark tone wood on the body and maybe even skipping the chamber option might help to prevent feedback at the high volume levels of very sensitive pickups? Will the location of the control cavity and routing.........and maybe even selection of laminate wood help?
Thanks for the advice!
Selecting compatible wood types and ensuring standard configuration (Warmoth keeps things pretty standard with their selection) might help? I saw a few interviews a while back of the Fender Custom Shop luthiers and one explained a "bright" neck usually works best with a "dark" sounding body...and in reverse (bright body wood sound works best with dark sounding neck). I saw the post from the person who really liked the Seymour Duncan Zeph pickups but complained there was too much feedback when in distortion mode at high volumes. Do you think using a fairly dark tone wood on the body and maybe even skipping the chamber option might help to prevent feedback at the high volume levels of very sensitive pickups? Will the location of the control cavity and routing.........and maybe even selection of laminate wood help?
Thanks for the advice!
